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New Jobless Claims: Thunderdome Edition
Townhall.com ^ | May 4, 2012 | Political Calculations

Posted on 05/04/2012 5:35:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: 1rudeboy
I will tell you this: you shouldn't use technical economic terms if you do not understand what they mean.

I don't hang out here much. I hang out on economic forums. Whoopsie! Your bad.

I've seen your agenda here on FR. FR is not really a good place for economic stuff, and we both know it. I was just firing a warning shot across the bow of your strawman.

Jonah Goldberg is a tool. He dropped the ball on Derbyshire - a major sign of a weak mind, too influenced by the Beltway twaddle.

So, if I am engaged in BS (with an alleged hidden agenda), you should have no trouble demonstrating it. Otherwise, you are just talking out of your behind.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:1rudeboy/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

21 posted on 05/04/2012 9:32:47 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: 1rudeboy

It’s amazing. You print the actual facts from the actual source and certain morons still deny reality.


22 posted on 05/04/2012 12:59:52 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I never called you a moron, Toddster, but have it your way...

rude & Toddy, the economic blowhard twins. :-)


23 posted on 05/04/2012 2:21:26 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Smokin' Joe

Joe,

You are at least partially right.

To be counted as “unemployed,” a person must be actively searching for work.

By definition, people drawing Unemployment Benefits must look for work, and, by definition, are unemployed.

Once their UI Benefits are exhausted, however, some people - but not all people - end their job search and drop out of the workforce.

Those people are NOT counted as unemployed.


24 posted on 05/04/2012 2:43:25 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: kiryandil

You’re batting 0 for 2.
Watch out for those facts, you might be allergic.


25 posted on 05/04/2012 4:35:29 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: zeestephen

As a practical question, how does the government count the people who are not receiving unemployment benefits? There are no people getting a check, so how do they keep track of people no longer in the system?


26 posted on 05/04/2012 6:09:23 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
You’re batting 0 for 2.

**snicker**

Still the same smarmy dweeb you always were, eh, Toddy?

Bucking for another 4 month layoff? You just can't keep yourself from trolling, can you?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2705227/posts

27 posted on 05/04/2012 6:16:29 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Smokin' Joe
The Bureau of Labor Statistics measures employment in two ways. The Establishment Survey gathers data directly from 400,000 companies and then estimates how many Americans have payroll jobs. The Household Survey, based on surveys of 60,000 households, determines how many people are working and produces the unemployment rate.

Don't worry, Toddy & rude will show up in a while to tell me I'm stupid...

28 posted on 05/04/2012 6:20:01 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Smokin' Joe
There are no people getting a check, so how do they keep track of people no longer in the system?

The same way they track people every month to calculate the unemployment rate. Pretty sure there's link upthread.

29 posted on 05/04/2012 6:25:50 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: kiryandil
Pointing out your ignorance, and John Williams’, is bucking for a layoff?
If you say so.
Do you want to defend the phony Shadowstats numbers?
30 posted on 05/04/2012 6:32:35 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: kiryandil

Hey, you got one right.
Did someone hack your account?


31 posted on 05/04/2012 6:34:44 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Kaslin

8.1% of what?


32 posted on 05/04/2012 6:38:38 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
The Bureau of Labor Statistics measures employment in two ways. The Establishment Survey gathers data directly from 400,000 companies and then estimates how many Americans have payroll jobs. The Household Survey, based on surveys of 60,000 households, determines how many people are working and produces the unemployment rate.

So they 'estimate' by talking to 60,000 out of 200,000,000 or so. Yea, that's scientific. In other words it's a f****** guess at best at complete bull**** at worst. Toss the fact that this administration lies as easily as I breathe and I'm taking the latter.

33 posted on 05/04/2012 6:46:10 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Kaslin
Rising oil and gasoline prices in the U.S. have derailed the most recent falling trend in new jobless claims

President Obama, Democrats and Unions would be able to take so much more if they could convince the environmentalists gas under $3.00 would help them all.

34 posted on 05/04/2012 7:04:38 PM PDT by alrea
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Toddy, you're the idiot who got banned for mouthing off to the moderators. Not me.

So why don't you have a nice cup of STFU? ;-)

35 posted on 05/04/2012 7:35:44 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Lurker
So they 'estimate' by talking to 60,000 out of 200,000,000 or so. Yea, that's scientific.

They could talk to 200,000,000. Is that your suggestion?

36 posted on 05/04/2012 8:09:40 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: kiryandil

Does this mean you won’t defend Williams? LOL!


37 posted on 05/04/2012 8:10:58 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Does this mean you’re still drinking and trolling? LOL!


38 posted on 05/04/2012 8:17:52 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I didn’t make a suggestion. I called “bullshit” on their “estimated” numbers.

Which households are they calling? When are they calling them? Where are these households located? What exactly are these households being asked? Who’s doing the answering? What biases are inserted by those doing estimating?

Until you know the answers to these questions you’re talking out off your ass.


39 posted on 05/04/2012 8:24:09 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: kiryandil

I’m still pointing out idiocy.


40 posted on 05/04/2012 9:54:38 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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