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May 1: Former Soviet Citizen Confronts More Socialists and Communists
youtube ^ | 5/4/12 | pp000610

Posted on 05/04/2012 2:40:55 PM PDT by Nachum

An interview with a socialist at a May 1st rally.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: citizen; communists; socialists; soviet
Video at link
1 posted on 05/04/2012 2:41:08 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
Thanks for posting.

In the course of his research for "Solzhenitsyn: A Soul in Exile" (Harper Collins), Joseph Pearch traveled to Moscow to interview the writer. The excerpt below is from that interview:

"Solzhenitsyn: In different places over the years I have had to prove that socialism, which to many western thinkers is a sort of kingdom of justice, was in fact full of coercion, of bureaucratic greed and corruption and avarice, and consistent within itself that socialism cannot be implemented without the aid of coercion. Communist propaganda would sometimes include statements such as 'we include almost all the commandments of the Gospel in our ideology.' The difference is that the Gospel asks all this to be achieved through love, through self-limitation, but socialism only uses coercion. This is one point.
"Untouched by the breath of God, unrestricted by human conscience, both capitalism and socialism are repulsive."

This is a point which has been missing in the current debate.

2 posted on 05/04/2012 3:08:59 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Nachum; All
Listening to this former Soviet interviewer point out how America came from being a sheer wilderness with no tools to becoming the leading country in the world reminded me of the following essay previously published on FR.

The interviewer's points were well made and completely stymied and revealed the ignorance of the protester.

The Miracle of America

from

axes and hoes to high technology;

log cabins to air-conditioned condos;

horsedrawn wagons to autos, planes, and rockets;

scarcity to abundance; &

from tyrannical government rule  to individual liberty

HOW DID IT ALL BEGIN?

 

   


Most of our history books don’t tell us that, in the beginning, the pilgrims established a communal economic system.  Each was to produce according to his ability and contribute his production to a common storehouse from which each was to draw according to his need.

   The assurance that they would be fed from the common store, regardless of their contribution to it, had a peculiarly disabling effect on the colonists.  Taking property away from some and giving it to others bred discontent and retarded employment.  Human nature was the same then as now, and before long, there were more consumers than there were producers, and the pilgrims were near starvation.  Governor Bradford, his advisors, and the colonists agreed that in order to increase their crops, each family would be allowed to do as it pleased with whatever it produced.  In other words, a free market system was established.  In Governor Bradford’s own words:

                “This had very good success; for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corne was planted than other waise would have bene by any means ye Governor or any other could use, and saved him a great deall of trouble, and gave farr better contente.  The women now wente willingly into ye field, and tooke their little-ons with them to set corne, which before would aledg weaknes, and inabilitie; whom to have compelled would have bene though great tiranie and oppression. . . . By this time harvest was come, and instead of famine, now God gave them plenty, and the face of things was changed. . . . and some of ye abler sort and more industrious had to spare, and sell to others, so as any generall wante or famine hath not been amongst them since this day . . . .” (Wm. Bradford, “Of Plimoth Plantation,” original manuscript, Wright & Potter, Boston, 1901)


  

   Those who, today, favor central government planning, common ownership and redistribution of the earnings of others are advocating a system that Americans tried and rejected over 350 years ago.  Their wisdom gave birth to the great American miracle!

  

Are we as wise today?

 

You Can Do Something About This!

 

(This message originally published in the mid-1980’s by Stedman Corporation’s Government Affairs & Free Enterprise Education Program – a former NC textile firm.  For more essays in this series, visit www.ouragelessconstitution.com )

 

 


3 posted on 05/04/2012 3:31:58 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Nachum

Love it. The Russian smashed that idiot flat.
In college we had a bunch of Trotskyites and Maoists. I used to screw with them when they tried to recruit. I’d tell I believed in “ National Socialism”. The idiots would usually miss the joke. I’d tell em we believed in state control of industry, education, etc. That a small group controlled all the wealth and information. When they would start to agree with me, I’d tell, well we were REALLY big in Germany in the 30’s and 40’s. THAT’S WHEN THE LIGHT would go on and I’d laugh my a## off....


4 posted on 05/04/2012 3:42:22 PM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Kozak

I did something like that years ago over at democratic underground. I took passages from Hitlers Mein kampf. The only changes I made to those passages were where it originally said “Jews”, I replaced with “conservatives” and replaced “jewery” with “conservatism”. Then I would look for threads where these passages would be on topic and pertinent to the discussion.

The DUers generally agreed with me, some praising my writing skills. One of their more well known long time posters complimented me, saying I wrote like bill Clinton! It took about a dozen posts before the du administrators caught on and I was banned and my posts were deleted.


5 posted on 05/04/2012 4:31:34 PM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: lowbridge

Please tell me you saved those.


6 posted on 05/04/2012 5:50:47 PM PDT by InMemoriam (The Republicans are just Whigging it up...)
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To: lowbridge

Good work, lowbridge.

I love hearing about patriots going into the enemy camp and befuddling these 30 IQ liberal apes.

Here’s a half-dozen complimentary raspberry/chocolate doughnut holes from me to you:

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7 posted on 05/04/2012 6:09:57 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Nachum

“May 1: Former Soviet Citizen Confronts Ignorant American Leftists”

There! Fixed it for ya!


8 posted on 05/04/2012 6:26:06 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: InMemoriam

I didn’t save them, but a few of my posts were overlooked and not deleted. I will send you by private message a link to one of them that I can find. Please do not make it public, lest they delete that one too.


9 posted on 05/05/2012 1:12:17 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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