Posted on 05/06/2012 3:44:23 PM PDT by marktwain
There has been a lot of confusion and angst about New Mexico dropping recognition of the Arizona CCW (along with 10 other states). Fortunately Gov. Susana Martinez reacted to the tsunami or firestorm of emails and had the New Mexico DPS restore those reciprocities and recognitions. As of May 1, 2012 this is the reciprocity list:
http://www.dps.nm.org/index.php/nm-c...ty-agreements/
Gov. Martinez is an NRA member and made perfect scores on the live fire portion on the NM CCW permit test with the 45 auto and 38 revolver. I hope that this allays a lot of the consternation that has resulted from this. My son and daughter-in-law live in New Mexico and I travel there often. I have both Arizona and Utah CCW permits.
Somebody went to the woodshed.
First, it is important to note that the Department of Public Safety has not made final decisions to change reciprocity agreements or recognition of other states, but rather DPS is conducting an audit of those statutes to ensure compliance with New Mexico state law.
The information on this web page differentiates those states that have concealed carry laws that are substantially similar to New Mexico’s law (or more stringent) from those that do not. For those states that have had reciprocity agreements with New Mexico, but do not now have a similar law to ours, NM DPS will contact those states to clarify which permit holders from that state are not allowed to carry a concealed weapon in New Mexico. This will not affect the vast majority of permit holders in states with current reciprocity agreements.
For example, if New Mexico currently has a reciprocity agreement with a particular state that allows individuals under age 21, non-citizens, and/or individuals convicted of violent crimes to obtain a concealed carry permit, then NM DPS will work to adjust the reciprocity agreement to clarify to that state’s permit holders that they can carry a concealed weapon in New Mexico so long as they are a U.S. Citizen, over 21 years of age, and not convicted of disqualifying violent crimes.
Information on this webpage will be updated to include those states that (a) have a current reciprocity agreement that will not need to be adjusted because they have a concealed carry statute that is similar to New Mexico’s (or more stringent), (b) have a current reciprocity agreement that must be adjusted to ensure compliance with New Mexico law, and (c) have not entered into any reciprocity agreement with the state.
NMDPS has made a lot of progress in the last year concerning NM’s reciprocity with other states. We are aggressively seeking reciprocity with the states who qualify. Since many states amend their concealed carry laws each year, we have started an audit to determine if we are where we need to be in our agreements with other states. We are finding some changes need to be made. Thus, we are in the process of making those changes in order to be in compliance with New Mexico law.
New Mexico statute 29-19-12E requires that in order for a state to be recognized by NM, their provisions have to be “at least as stringent or substantially similar” to New Mexico. NMDPS has generally found six things that make a state substantially different from New Mexico, and therefore would disqualify that state from being recognized:
1. Permits issued locally rather than by the state;
2. No fingerprint-based background check;
3. Permits issued to persons under 21 years of age;
4. Permits issued to resident aliens;
5. No classroom (static) training required;
6. No live-fire (dynamic) training required.
As we continue our audit and make changes accordingly, this page will be updated to reflect the most current information. This information is current as of May 1, 2012
New Mexico currently recognizes concealed carry permits from or has reciprocal agreements with the following states: Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia and West Virginia.
Alabama: http://www.ago.alabama.gov/Page-Alabama-Weapon-Law
Alaska: http://www.dps.state.ak.us/Statewide/PermitsLicensing/reciprocity.aspx
Arizona: http://www.azdps.gov/Services/Concealed_Weapons/Reciprocity/
Arkansas: http://www.asp.state.ar.us/divisions/rs/rs_chl_law.html#rec
California: http://www.lasdhq.org/contact_us/inquiry/gen_pub_ccw_app.pdf
Colorado: http://cbi.state.co.us/ic/Reciprocity.html
Connecticut: http://www.ct.gov/dps/cwp/view.asp?a=2158&Q=294502&dpsNav .
Delaware: http://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/crime/concealedweapons.shtml
Florida: http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/news/concealed_carry.html
Georgia (Title 16, chapter 11, Article 4): http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/gacode/Default.asp
Hawaii: http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0009.htm
Idaho: http://www.ag.idaho.gov/concealedWeapons/concealedWeapons_index.html
Illinois: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/publicacts/pubact91/acts/91-0690.html
Indiana: http://www.in.gov/isp/files/firearms_FAQ_02_08.pdf
Iowa: http://www.dps.state.ia.us/asd/SF2379_FAQ.pdf
Kansas: http://www.ksag.org/files/shared/conceal.carry.reciprocity.pdf
Kentucky: http://www.kentuckystatepolice.org/conceal.htm
Louisiana: http://www.legis.state.la.us/lss/lss.asp?doc=97451
Maine: http://maine.gov/dps/msp/licenses/documents/Weapons/CFP%20Booklet.pdf
http://maine.gov/dps/msp/licenses/weapons_permits.html
Maryland: http://www.mdsp.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=GwfGW-6srGs%3d&tabid=423&mid=1072
Massachusetts: http://www.mass.gov/Eeops/docs/chsb/firearms/Non-resident_20100126.pdf
Michigan: http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654—,00.html
Minnesota: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=624.714
Mississippi: http://www.dps.state.ms.us/firearms/firearms-permit-unit/
Missouri: http://ago.mo.gov/Concealed-Weapons/
Montana: http://www.doj.mt.gov/enforcement/criminaljustice/concealedweapons.asp
Nebraska: http://statepatrol.nebraska.gov/Concealed_Forms.aspx
Nevada: http://www.nvrepository.state.nv.us/ccw_changes.shtml
New Hampshire: http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/ssb/permitslicensing/plupr.html
New Jersey: http://www.njsp.org/info/forms.html#firearms
New York: http://troopers.ny.gov/Firearms/
North Carolina: http://www.nccrimecontrol.org/index2.cfm?a=000003,000014,000935,000942
North Dakota: http://www.ag.state.nd.us/BCI/CW/reciprocity.htm
Ohio: http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Enforcement/Concealed-Carry/Reciprocity-Agreements
Oklahoma: http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Concealed_Weapons_Licensing/Reciprocity/index.html
Pennsylvania: http://attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx?id=184
Rhode Island: http://www.riag.state.ri.us/documents/forms/pistol_instructions.pdf
South Carolina: http://www.sled.sc.gov/Reciprocity1.aspx?MenuID=CWP
South Dakota: http://sdsos.gov/content/viewcontent.aspx?cat=adminservices&pg=/adminservices/concealedpistolpermits.shtm
Tennessee: http://www.tn.gov/safety/handgun/reciprocity.shtml
Texas: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/reciprocity.htm
Utah: http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/FAQother.html
Vermont: http://www.atg.state.vt.us/issues/gun-laws.php
Virginia: http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Reciprocity.shtm
Washington: http://www.atg.wa.gov/ConcealedWeapons/Reciprocity.aspx
West Virginia: http://www.statepolice.wv.gov/about/Pages/LegalDivisionFAQs.aspx
Wisconsin: http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/ConcealedCarry/ConcealedCarry.asp.
Wyoming: http://www.whp.dot.state.wy.us/wydot/public_relations/concealed_carry/concealed_faq
*New Mexicans traveling to the following states should know these states require written reciprocity agreements before NM permits are recognized: Mississippi, South Carolina, and Wisconsin. Invitations have been sent and New Mexico is waiting on responses.
Information contained on this page is not to be considered legal advice. You should always contact an attorney licensed to practice law in your state for any legal advice. In addition, you are strongly urged to contact the licensing authority in any state where you wish to carry a concealed weapon for any particular or other restrictive information that may not be reflected on this brief summation. Please note that the permit issued by your state does not supersede New Mexico’s laws or regulations. Legal conduct in your state may not be legal in New Mexico.
http://www.dps.nm.org/index.php/nm-concealed-carry/reciprocity-agreements/
This article might mean something if I knew what all the abbreviations meant.
The correct form is for the entire abbreviation to be spelled out the first time followed by the abbreviation in parentheses. After that, it is correct to use only the abbreviation since the reader has been alerted to the meaning.
She could spend the rest of her life trying to undo the damage her predecessor (Bill Richardson) did, and would still need several more lifetimes.
This article might mean something if I knew what all the abbreviations meant. The correct form is for the entire abbreviation to be spelled out the first time followed by the abbreviation in parentheses. After that, it is correct to use only the abbreviation since the reader has been alerted to the meaning.
I did not write the article, so I may not change it. However:
Concealed Carry Weapons (CCW)
Governor (Gov.)
Department of Public Safety (DPS)
National Rifle Association (NRA)
New Mexico (NM)
I hope that helps.
I blame it on bad feelings from the (mythical) Arizona-New Mexico Border War of 1923. It began with a minor border dispute over which state had authority over a small town known as Burning Drip in Arizona, and Pendejo in New Mexico.
In territorial days it had been an unprofitable pudendum mine, known more for its bootleg Pulque, a nasty drink made from fermented cactus, sold to unwary Indians who would drink anything with alcohol in it.
In any event, a delegation from Arizona was in Albuquerquequerque (name later shortened) to sign the agreement that New Mexico would take the place, and Arizona would give New Mexico $50 a year for expenses. To celebrate this agreement, the New Mexicans laid out a banquet of their state dish, dog meat with lard sauce, on a bed of green chili peppers, which they use to ruin their food for some reason.
Deeply offended by both the insult of the green chilis and the deplorable appearance of the New Mexican “Pueblo Art Deco” architecture, as a group the Arizonans “blew their cookies”, which the New Mexicans interpreted as a slight to their collective mothers.
In that the banquet was held at the Mother’s Collective, modeled after one in the Soviet Union.
After returning to Arizona there was a lull in the hostilities, since the city of Flagstaff was hosting the brief visit of the then minor political figure from Europe, Adolf Hitler, vacationing there in March, who was the most prominent person to visit the state between Teddy Roosevelt, a decade before, and John Dillinger, a decade after.
In any event, the (mythical) border war has been simmering ever since.
Mr. Clemens,
Firstly, I want to thank you for your diligence in posting threads on all things 2nd Amendment. I lurk on nearly all of your posts.
Secondly, as a citizen of a state whose reciprocity was recently rescinded and who regularly travels through your state, I regret to inform you that I will no longer be contributing to your state coffers during my travels. My plans will be altered so that I will refuel, rest, and eat in Arizona or Texas before making use of your generally fine roadways. I hope this does not negatively impact you financially.
Keep up the good fight, I’ll be reading.
Your FRiend, hs
I live in Arizona, but thanks for your diligence. Perhaps Governor Martinez will push for legislative redress of your grievance.
New Mexico is ripe for CCW improvements.
Thank you for your kind words.
My apologies to you. I know you did not write the article so my observation was not meant toward you. My frustration was diverted to something else at that moment:
I hesitated knowing I should have made that clear to you from the beginning. BUT, my kitty cats were staring me in the face demanding food although they have all kinds of food out for their consumption 24/7.
They complain that their boiled boneless, skinless chicken is boring. Their top of the line ground beef is boring. Their expensive food in cans and dried food are boring. Therefore, at that moment I had to get up out of my chair and see what I could invent.
Again, I apologize. And I do always enjoy all the articles you submit to FR. Thank you so much.
Also, thank you very much for the abbreviations you spelled out for. I realize that took some of your time. I appreciated it.
My very best to you.
In my youth I worked in a supermarket. I’ve bought new cars in less time than it takes some people to choose cat food. I used to marvel at that, until my wife got a cat. Now I understand.
No apologies necessary. Thank you for the kind words.
You are most welcome, and I am very sincere about what I said.
You are most welcome, and I am very sincere about what I said.
Nothing personal but there seems to be a contradiction in the information above. The article omits AK as having a signed agreement of reciprocity with NM. However, the AK state site (from the link supplied) lists NM as indeed having an agreement in place.
Check closely before you travel
Good grief!!!
My kitty cats eat better than I do, and I am not a big eater.
I’ll go to the supermarket and realize when I get home I forgot to purchased food for myself.
Good grief!!!
My kitty cats eat better than I do, and I am not a big eater.
I’ll go to the supermarket and realize when I get home I forgot to purchased food for myself.
I don’t understand how NM can have a reciprocity agreement with Tx when Tx law violates the “permits issued to resident aliens” law in NM. My wife got her Tx CHL when she was still a Russian citizen. Her application and approval was exactly the same as for a U.S. citizen living in Tx. No problem and no delays.
I love Texas.
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