“I watched one of the Maine videos that supposedly “showed” this. They had a “similar delegate list” which didn’t mention Ron Paul anywhere, and which followed a standard form for delegate lists, and happened to start with the Governor like Ron Paul’s list did. Because it was in the same “format” the video asserted it was a trick. Oddly, the Ron Paul list didn’t mention Ron Paul anywhere — which some would say was itself a trick to not let people know who the delegates were supporting.”
I’m not sure why you continue to resist me on this. This level of apologetics for Romney is definitely undeserved. You aren’t looking hard enough and I am not aware of any delegate slates that were captured on photo or video that were ambiguous. There were two slates. Both of them with the Ron Paul logo. That is not disputable. One with Ron Paul’s delegates, the other with Mitt Romney delegates and a few misspelled Ron Paul delegates who were likely the better known. It’s pretty clear. You cannot dispute this. I even saw this on live video from what one of the Paulbots who were streaming the caucus.
This link has a photograph as an example: http://www.dailypaul.com/231180/romney-camp-distributes-fake-ron-paul-delegate-slate-at-nevada-convention-cnn-censored
I have seen several, none are ambiguous, and none match your description, so I have no idea what you’re looking at. Maybe you’re reading or watching something from a few months ago.
I was discussing the “Maine” video, not the Nevada picture. The Maine video at least gave verification that they were actually at the event and there were real people passing things out, but was as I described.
As I mentioned in another part of my post which you didn’t quote, the Nevada question is that, if you postulate “shenanigans”, you can’t tell whether it was a Romney operative passing out a false slate, or a Ron Paul zealot making up a “Romney” fake slate to complain about, or just some random guy who showed up at the convention and wanted to be cute, not sanctioned by either nominee. You’d need a video showing a person passing out the Nevada delegate slate, and identify them and then tie them definitively to a campaign.
I’m not “resisting you”. In fact, it’s funny that you used the term “resist me”, it sounds like the Borg “resistance is futile”, which so much painted me a picture of Ron Paul’s supporters that you certainly didn’t want me to have.
I hate conventions, because people play all sorts of tricks. In fact, I started this by pointing out that multiple posts and several reports have mentioned Ron Paul supporters pulling tricks with delegate slates at lower levels, or offering themselves as supporters of other candidates so they could get to the next level and vote Paul-supporters into the national group.
Nevada seems to prove that to be the case — because 50% of the people at district supported Mitt Romney, but we are to believe that those same 50% CHOSE to vote so many Ron Paul supporters on to the next level that Ron Paul had full control of the delegate slate. Who knows why, but it is more plausible that this was something Ron Paul did, than that Mitt Romney was actually trying to trick people and yet this happened anyway.
But you can believe what you want. The point I have been making is that I do not find it conservative to cheer on the idea of thwarting the actual votes people cast, simply because the process allows for the possibility. For whatever reason, 50% of the people who showed up for the Nevada Presidential Caucus voted for Romney, and 40% voted for other people than Ron Paul. And yet, at the national convention, if it makes it to a second round, Nevada’s voters, 90% of whom wanted someone else, will be “represented” by a near-unanimous slate of people voting for Ron Paul, somebody almost NONE of the people in Nevada actually wanted.
How anybody can say that this is a good thing, I don’t know. It certainly isn’t representative democracy. When we vote people to represent us, we expect them to faithfully do so, not misrepresent themselves and do something we don’t want as soon as we turn our backs.