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Sleznikow overlooks key gun control arguments(WI)
The Badger Herald ^ | 6 May, 2012 | Justin Kramer

Posted on 05/07/2012 8:51:15 AM PDT by marktwain

This column is in response to Hannah Sleznikow’s recent column titled, “Safety concerns outweigh rights to bear arms.”

On the Constitution being a “living document:” This is only true in the sense it is in full force today and can be formally amended. However, it cannot simply be reinterpreted based on one’s political whims or to “fit with the times.”

When one tries to take the Constitution, or any of its subsequent amendments, out of its historical context, a great disservice is done and the floodgates are opened to abuse. We cannot twist and warp it to fit our own desires. Historians do not look at ancient scripts and attempt to interpret their meaning based on our definitions or values today, but based on their original context and what its authors intended to say. Anything else would be an egregious misuse of the text and completely distort its message.

If two businesses create a contract with each other, one firm could not legally come back 80 years later and try to alter the original agreement by manipulating the terms to fit their current aspirations. If the firm wanted the contract changed, they would have to do so by amending it.

This is the exact same process we have with our Constitution. For example, courts could not rule, based on their own social opinions, that our Constitution was dated and claim that denying the vote to women did nothing but demean them as second-class citizens. They couldn’t abolish such laws because such a right — at that time — didn’t exist. A constitutional amendment was needed to change this, not the partisan agenda of any particular court “modernizing” the Constitution to reflect our present values.

On firearms control: Advocates of gun control may point out modern firearms didn’t exist 200 years ago, so if we abandoned the flawed “living document” view, any modern weapons could potentially be banned. Such a draconian viewpoint ignores the entire context of the Second Amendment. The word “arms” was never intended to be limited to weapons available in that timeframe, at the exclusion of all future inventions. No serious scholar would ever attempt to manifest such a case; future firearms inventions were meant to be protected, just like modern methods of utilizing free speech are protected.

Gun control can be thought of like modern-day prohibition; no matter how much one tries to restrict firearms, criminals will always obtain and use them. It’s very much like the failed war on drugs. Just about any university student could find a way to obtain marijuana if they so desired, even though its production, possession, and sale are forbidden. Does banning the use of drugs or underage drinking stop those who wish to do so from disregarding the law? Nope. Likewise, preventing law-abiding citizens from carrying firearms will do nothing to prevent gunmen from carrying them anyway.

Why are campuses primary targets for gunmen? I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact they’re a giant conglomerate of unarmed individuals unable to fire back and defend themselves. It sure makes for easy shooting when the attacker doesn’t have to worry about a pesky student who may be packing heat.

Sleznikow correctly points out not everybody shares the view concealed carry laws provide safety. Yet, one’s opinion doesn’t trump constitutional rights. It also begs the question of why this is even the case. A tongue-in-cheek term for it is hoplophobia, which is the irrational fear of weapons. People don’t recoil in fear if they see policemen carrying firearms, for we are not conditioned to perceive this as a threat. We need to correct the misconception concealed carry poses a risk to society.

At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter how many fancy signs one puts up banning firearms — gunmen don’t give a darn about the law. It’s absurd to think gunmen would let a rule banning handguns or a sign declaring a gun-free zone to thwart their plans. There’s an old saying, “When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.” Our university will be made a more dangerous place if our Second Amendment rights and ability to exercise self-defense are curtailed.

Justin Kramer (jdkramer2@wisc.edu) is a sophomore majoring in nuclear engineering.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Philosophy; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; gun; wi; youwillnotdisarmus
If the current administration is voted out, Justin Kramer may have a job in two years.
1 posted on 05/07/2012 8:51:19 AM PDT by marktwain
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2 posted on 05/07/2012 8:54:22 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: marktwain
Advocates of gun control may point out modern firearms didn’t exist 200 years ago

Nope, but at close range they were every bit as deadly, if much slower to reload.

And some of the revolutionary era firearms were accurate at several hundred yards, though true expertise was required at such a range.

The 2nd refers to arms, not muskets, swords and rifles.

3 posted on 05/07/2012 8:56:03 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: marktwain

:: Hannah Sleznikow’s recent column titled, “Safety concerns outweigh rights to bear arms.” ::

In these types of statements, I always point out the implied “my” in the sentence. You see, Hannah believes that HER (perception of) safety outweighs the Constitution.

Hannah is a nation unto herself.


4 posted on 05/07/2012 9:28:55 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Sherman Logan; marktwain

Advocates of gun control also dance around the fact that 200 years ago we had privately owned cannons. We had privately owned warships (privateers). Merchant shipping had cannons mounted to defend themselves against pirates. Etc.


5 posted on 05/07/2012 9:47:49 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Sherman Logan
Nope, but at close range they were every bit as deadly, if much slower to reload.

That's when the idea of gun control started. The armored highly trained knights learned, to their horror, that any dumb unskilled peasant could just point this new invention at them and kill them. Can't have that.

In the Japanese version of "The Seven Samurai" there is a classic scene where the ace swordsman is killed by some unskilled goon with a matchlock.

6 posted on 05/07/2012 9:52:27 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Oatka
The armored highly trained knights learned, to their horror, that any dumb unskilled peasant could just point this new invention at them and kill them. Can't have that.

Actually goes back before firearms. Can. 29 of the Second Lateran Council under Pope Innocent II in 1139 banned the use of crossbows against Christians. (Apparently they were fine for shooting Muslims, heretics and pagans.)

7 posted on 05/07/2012 10:01:15 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
Point taken. I remember an old Bannerman's catalog picture of a 1700's flintlock "Gatling Gun" by a gut named Puckle. The gun had removeable cylinders - one using round balls against fellow Christians, the other using square balls against Muslim Turks.


8 posted on 05/07/2012 10:52:06 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: marktwain
The government can't keep drugs out of prisons. How much more of a controlled environment can you get?

But I'm supposed to believe that strict gun control laws will keep the criminals from being armed?

Who is this stupid woman's keeper? He needs to come and collect her.

9 posted on 05/07/2012 5:24:40 PM PDT by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: marktwain

“Safety concerns outweigh rights to bear arms.”

The leftist aka progressives claimed the same thing during WW II. When they rounded up and imprisoned hundred of thousands of American citizens. Without going before a court. Simply because of the place of their birth.


10 posted on 05/08/2012 8:02:29 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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