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A Mormon in the White House
New York Post ^ | May 5, 2012 | Maureen Callahan

Posted on 05/07/2012 10:36:51 AM PDT by kevcol

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62% [of mormons] say that Americans are “uninformed” about the religion. Yet the reluctance of most Mormons to discuss their beliefs and customs with non-members only adds to secular suspicion that the church is a cult.

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Romney would also be assigned two “home teachers” — fellow Mormons who live in his vicinity and would visit with Romney once a month, probably in the White House, to counsel him on his faith and general emotional state

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Less than two hours after my visit — despite giving staffers only my first name and filling out no paperwork — I was startled to get a voicemail on my cellphone from someone identifying himself as a prophet, saying that he’d like to “start interceding for your life” and asking me to call an 800 number to join a prayer circle.

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says that she specifically asked to be moved to [Sen. Harry] Reid’s Maryland chapel, because she has a relative who’s gay and her former place of worship housed some older, bigoted congregants.

She’ll be worshipping with Brother Romney should he win. Even if he loses, however, author Feldman thinks that his nomination itself is a watershed moment.

“That so many Americans don’t know he’s a Mormon, and that his religion wasn’t a factor in this primary — as it was four years ago — that’s directional,” he says. “ It’s a historically significant moment, and it’s progress. We’re improving as a country.”

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KEYWORDS: lds; mittromney; mormonism; romney; romney2012; romneyandgod
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BBM. Aside from all other issues with his ever-shifting "positions", there is no doubt IMO that the MSM will ensure Willard's religion plays a major role (liability) in the election. You don't even have to read between the lines to see where this is heading.
1 posted on 05/07/2012 10:36:55 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol

A Mormon already controls the Senate.


2 posted on 05/07/2012 10:39:40 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: kevcol

I’ll take a Mormon over a Marxist any day.


3 posted on 05/07/2012 10:40:02 AM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: kevcol

Romney is a lying cheater.

His religion is irrelevant to his incompetence.

That said, Romney has no chance. Zero. Zed. Nada.


4 posted on 05/07/2012 10:41:24 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: kevcol

I disagree with LDS theology, I say without hestitation that it’s flat wrong.

Yet, the personal hands-on approach of counsel has commonalities both to cults AND to the orthodox/biblical Christian church. Read the biblical epistles and it’s inescapable that church fathers could get quite “nosey” into congregants’ affairs, if not a formal structure like this.


5 posted on 05/07/2012 10:42:28 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: kevcol
A lying, socialist Mormon in the White House.
6 posted on 05/07/2012 10:43:11 AM PDT by Third Person
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To: kevcol
mormonism will be laid bare, it will no longer be a secret operating corporation. Romney will lose first and foremost because he is a liberal, being a practicing member of mormonism will only cement in people's minds why he is a liberal.
7 posted on 05/07/2012 10:45:45 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Diogenesis

Is this like an advance version of sour grapes?

It strikes me as intellectually dishonest. Romney will be seen as a maven on the prevailing concern and worry of most Americans — the economy and jobs. It’s impossible for him not to. He doesn’t have to brag it up for it to be obvious. Obama never was a businessman. In the meantime Obama keeps shooting himself in the foot with his political advertising.


8 posted on 05/07/2012 10:45:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I disagree with it as well.

But those goofy kids with the ties and short sleeve shorts are not saying “Convert or die, infidel.”

Obama is WAY too cozy with the mooselimbs...and when they achieve significant numbers in the US, look out...


9 posted on 05/07/2012 10:46:07 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now.)
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To: svcw

There’s “official” Mormonism with its clean if severe living ideals, then there is nod-and-wink Mormonism. Mitt is more characterized by the second.


10 posted on 05/07/2012 10:47:25 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Third Person

A lying, socialist Mormon vs. a lying, Marxist Muslim gay illegal alien. Take your pick.


11 posted on 05/07/2012 10:48:16 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: kevcol

Beats a man; whose name rhymes with ‘Osama’ - ANY day.


12 posted on 05/07/2012 10:48:24 AM PDT by cricket (Calling Marco Rubio; Allen West. . .because they are NOT afraid.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
To me a cult differentiates itself from other religions not through theological beliefs - but via the adherence they insist upon from their members.

A cult wants 100% commitment of resources. If you own a van - the cult owns a van. If you own a 50 cal machine gun - the cult owns a 50 cal machine gun.

A religion usually only wants 10%.

13 posted on 05/07/2012 10:49:09 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: kevcol
This 'watcher on watcher' method is pretty typical of the Old Apostolic Lutheran Church ~ in Scandinavia. It also shows up in Swedenborg's "revelation" ~ Smith is often accused of using Swedenborg's work to design his own church organization.

As I've pointed out earlier, that same COTFB church, at an earlier stage than most sources will give you, was around in upstate New York and Rhode Island in the early 1700s ~ and was known then, and now, as The Church of the First Born.

Joseph Smith (just coincidentally I am sure) provides a great deal of information concerning that body in the Doctrines & Covenants.

I've had any number of Mormons advise me that the Mormon use of the term, and these customs, has nothing to do with the older church, or with Swedenborg, but here's another one ~ they are documented as participating in what is known as serial polygamy. It has been typical for centuries for men and women to marry and divorce 4 or 5 others over their lifetimes, just like Bill Clinton's mom and dad, and they were both Church of the First Born members.

It would probably be good for the Mormons to start telling folks what all of these secret things mean ~ just for old times sake you know ~ save me an enormous amount of time digging more stuff up about the Old Apostolic Lutheran Church.

14 posted on 05/07/2012 10:50:27 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost; Dapper 26; cricket; A.Hun; jwalsh07; Drew68
A lying, socialist Mormon vs. a lying, Marxist Muslim gay illegal alien. Take your pick.

Amen. This choice this November is clear. I'll be voting "ABO", and if I have to, I'll crawl over glass to do it.

15 posted on 05/07/2012 10:51:43 AM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in peace, and thank you, Andrew Breitbart)
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To: Paladin2
Oh, so wish, that when this Media gets on the 'Mormon' case; these same would be challenged by asking just how they feel about that Demrat Senate Leader.

Of course; we know how 'we' feel about him; and so can guarantee; that 'ours' is not prejudice. . .save of ideology; and corrupt politicians.

16 posted on 05/07/2012 10:52:15 AM PDT by cricket (Calling Marco Rubio; Allen West. . .because they are NOT afraid.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
In simple terms the PR SLC lds projection of mormonism VS the reality of mormonism, which is what that liberal called Romney is.
17 posted on 05/07/2012 10:53:36 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: kevcol

what’s wrong with a Mormon? we already havae a Moron!


18 posted on 05/07/2012 10:54:29 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: allmendream

Perhaps orthodox/biblical Christianity puts more stress on the voluntary than Mormons do. However the former is no stranger to calls for “total commitment.”


19 posted on 05/07/2012 10:54:33 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: kevcol

what’s wrong with a Mormon? we already havae a Moron!


20 posted on 05/07/2012 10:54:40 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: allmendream

Good discription of mormonism


21 posted on 05/07/2012 10:57:07 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: kevcol

From the article:

“Yet the reluctance of most Mormons to discuss their beliefs and customs with non-members only adds to secular suspicion that the church is a cult. “

What the heck?

This journalist can’t be serious!

Just the other day, I had two Mormons show up on my doorstep wanting to talk about their beliefs!

In fact, once they got going, I couldn’t get them to shut up about their beliefs and customs long enough to get a single word in edgewise!!!

Of course, I’m fairly confident that THAT is the main reason people suspect Mormonism to be a cult!

Cheers

P.S. - They finally shut up and left quite hastily when I was finally able to interrupt them long enough to inform them that my wife had been ex-communicated from the Mormon church!


22 posted on 05/07/2012 10:57:54 AM PDT by DoctorBulldog (Obama Sucks!!!)
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To: kevcol

Romney will have home schoolers and “0” has Ayers.


23 posted on 05/07/2012 10:58:15 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Dapper 26

We have a commie in the WH who wears mama jeans and tosses a bb like a girly man, who never had a real girlfriend, and someone is worried about a Morman?

Give me a break!


24 posted on 05/07/2012 10:59:19 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The President who ate the dog, will soon wag the dog.)
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To: kevcol

For someone who seems to have at least attempted to do research for the article, she sure got an awful lot of simple things wrong.


25 posted on 05/07/2012 10:59:47 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I pick neither.


26 posted on 05/07/2012 11:00:08 AM PDT by Third Person
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To: Diogenesis
When john mccain beats your arse like a bass drum... you are a LOSER... and mitt cannot win... he will lose because he is a progressive, lying, big government, baby killing, gun grabbing bishop... in a science fiction based religious cult.

LLS

27 posted on 05/07/2012 11:01:20 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Pray hard and often!)
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To: kevcol
Yet the reluctance of most Mormons to discuss their beliefs and customs with non-members

Really? A couple of them show up on my doorstep every other month to discuss those. I have had Mormon employees who never seemed shy about discussing them. My dad used to get the full-press recruiting treatment when he went to Utah on business, once they found out how many kids he had. They send their kids off to far-off parts of the world when they turn 19 to share them.

The author does not know their arse from Shinola.


28 posted on 05/07/2012 11:01:56 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: HiTech RedNeck
There’s “official” Mormonism with its clean if severe living ideals, then there is nod-and-wink Mormonism. Mitt is more characterized by the second.

The Bishop is actually among the most devout, most devoted Mormons, a part of the most holy 15% of the members of Mormonism, a member of the inner sanctum, and of higher status than almost all of even that 15% of the most devout.

29 posted on 05/07/2012 11:05:53 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: kevcol
Yet the reluctance of most Mormons to discuss their beliefs and customs

Could be that oath under penalty of having throat cut from ear to ear, and tongue torn out by its roots ..

30 posted on 05/07/2012 11:05:59 AM PDT by donna (Mitt? NEVER!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Mormons rarely discuss their religious beliefs. They discuss their church’s religious beliefs.
Protestants have a hard time with this because we rarely follow our church’s beliefs completely.
For instance, I am a Methodist but I have a Presbyterian view of Communion.


31 posted on 05/07/2012 11:06:20 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“There’s “official” Mormonism with its clean if severe living ideals, then there is nod-and-wink Mormonism. Mitt is more characterized by the second.”

Yeah, just like the ‘Wink, Wink, Nod, Nod Catholics who look the other way as regards the likes of Pelosi, Biden, Sebillius, et.al, who routinely go against the tenets of their religion, to say nothing of the hoards of “secular progressive Jews.” who sell out their people in Israel ( as well as those here in the US). I will venture a guess that even the vaunted “Evangelicals” have non-adherents in their midst though they are too pious to admit it.


32 posted on 05/07/2012 11:06:38 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Dapper 26
I’ll take a Mormon over a Marxist any day.

Absolutely, my FRiend. I'll support a Mormon (even one named Willard) over a Marxist (and/or a muslim), and I'll do so with great energy and enthusiasm.

America and Americans and our ways and our culture and our freedoms and our property are in jeopardy; and, I fear that there could be no coming back from an Obama second term.

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33 posted on 05/07/2012 11:07:07 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Mormons will try to convert you, but they are extremely reluctant to discuss their beliefs and customs with non-Mormons.

Get the Priests over to your house and try to ask some in-depth questions, you will see evasiveness, slipperiness, and out and out denial that you will never see in a Christian missionary.

“Meat before Milk” Mormons are trained to bring you along slowly and feed you only enough information for that stage of indoctrination.


34 posted on 05/07/2012 11:12:20 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Seaplaner; Dapper 26
I’ll take a Mormon over a Marxist any day.

Harummph!

And the main thing that Romney has over 0bama in this election? One of them HATES America and the other does not.

35 posted on 05/07/2012 11:15:23 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Bitsy
romney and his daddy were both friends of saul alinsky. This is mitt's problem... any leftist attack on obama can be reversed on mitt in spades. mitt and obama... a pair of flaming lefists.

LLS

36 posted on 05/07/2012 11:18:06 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Pray hard and often!)
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To: vette6387

See post 29, and we can assume that Bishop Romney will ascend to higher levels within the religion in time.

The Bishop is not an indifferent Mormon, he is one of it’s most devoted leaders.


37 posted on 05/07/2012 11:18:18 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: MrB

Romney hates America EXCEPT when it helps himself.

FLASHBACK:

The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++4 to 10 pts
in some polls, days prior to Election 2008.
So rather than helping the GOP, Romney and
TeamROMNEY and the RNME (Republican National Media Establishment)
decided …to attack Gov. Palin to throw Election2008.

Romney, and the Van der Sloot RNME RINOs for Obama in 2008

Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.


"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



38 posted on 05/07/2012 11:22:56 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: kevcol

Liberation theology or Mormonism...? If these are my choices when voting, I will go Mormonism. As reasons for why I wish I had a different candidate than Romney, Mormonism is down there in the non issue pile.


39 posted on 05/07/2012 11:27:12 AM PDT by pallis
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To: kevcol

I would for for a devoted satanist or death row convict over obama at this point.

A B O !!!!


40 posted on 05/07/2012 11:28:44 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
There’s “official” Mormonism with its clean if severe living ideals, then there is nod-and-wink Mormonism. Mitt is more characterized by the second.

Mitt? Are you kidding? Mitt Romney is not a just a pew-sitter, he is a true blue believer. This is a man who truly thinks the silliness of Mormonism is the true gospel. Once Mitt is finished in politics, he is on fast-track to the First Presidency.

41 posted on 05/07/2012 11:29:01 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: svcw
I am a member of the church and I am no liberal. By the way most members I know vote Republican. Yes, some do vote Democrat. Isn't that what freedom is about. Also, I have never heard church leaders telling us who to vote for. Also, don’t call me a Mittbot, it is a waste of your time. I voted for Santourum in the primary.
42 posted on 05/07/2012 11:31:32 AM PDT by Stayingawayfromthedarkside
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To: nutmeg
This choice this November is clear. I'll be voting "ABO", and if I have to, I'll crawl over glass to do it.

Same here.

Have never had a reason to fear the 'Muslim next door'; and their is no CAIR-type organization (with terrorist links) to insure we 'get along'. . .

43 posted on 05/07/2012 11:35:10 AM PDT by cricket (Calling Marco Rubio; Allen West. . .because they are NOT afraid.)
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To: kevcol

The problem with Myth is he’s a liar.

He’s no better than Obama — in ways, he’s worse.

I won’t vote for him, no matter what.


44 posted on 05/07/2012 11:35:30 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Stayingawayfromthedarkside
There is a 94-98% chance you did vote for Romney in the primary, good for you that you broke the mold. My lds family with few exceptions are democrats, they are all liberals.
mormonism by its very nature is liberal, that's how it as founded.
Again, if you are different good for you.
Since SLC lds corporation is supporting Romney no need to overtly say “vote Romney”.
45 posted on 05/07/2012 11:38:59 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: ansel12

How does some priest from some other church know what I believe? Secondly, of course there is denial, because the priest is either lying or spouting off lies he was told.


46 posted on 05/07/2012 11:41:37 AM PDT by Stayingawayfromthedarkside
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To: ansel12

How does some priest from some other church know what I believe? Secondly, of course there is denial, because the priest is either lying or spouting off lies he was told.


47 posted on 05/07/2012 11:41:48 AM PDT by Stayingawayfromthedarkside
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To: LibLieSlayer

any leftist attack on obama can be reversed on mitt in spades. mitt and obama... a pair of flaming lefists.

Ug. What a choice we have in November. God help us! Please!!!!


48 posted on 05/07/2012 11:43:34 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Stayingawayfromthedarkside

A Mormon Priest serving as a missionary doesn’t know Mormonism?


49 posted on 05/07/2012 11:44:35 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Dapper 26

We have a Muslim and people are worried about a Mormon?


50 posted on 05/07/2012 11:56:39 AM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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