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New Threats for Old: New Russian regime more dangerous than old - S. Grigoryants warned in 1990 ^ | 05/07/2012 | Jeff Nyquist

Posted on 05/07/2012 12:39:06 PM PDT by JRNyquist

Once upon a time the Cold War and the threat of nuclear annihilation helped to maintain a certain focus. America and its European allies were supposedly upholding capitalism and freedom against Soviet Communism.

Then the Soviet Union broke apart and we got our hands on the “peace dividend.” Money could be diverted from weapons to social programs. The West was free to pursue its own socialism – leading to bankruptcy.

In 1990 a Soviet dissident named Sergei Grigoryants, who was twice imprisoned by the KGB, gave a speech in which he warned of the deceptive reality behind of the collapse of Communism.

According to Grigoryants, “Perestroika was a giant project undertaken by the KGB and the Soviet leadership for over 15 years.” Such a project, undertaken by a totalitarian power, could not result in something good. Real democracy was not a Communist goal. Instead, Grigoryants suggested, Russia would be treated to a new type of totalitarianism.

“They figured that the totalitarian system could perfectly coexist with private enterprise,” Grigoryants noted. “These people are not limited by anything, and they can perfectly coexist with private property.” What we call capitalism is a necessary but insufficient condition for democracy. Capitalism, properly controlled, is not a threat to authoritarian rulers who know how to consolidate their power.

“All that is needed for authoritarian rule is the bureaucratic apparatus, army and KGB,” Grigoryants explained. The Communist rulers of Russia, he added, have figured out that a large number of competing political parties are easier to handle than a united opposition. In fact, a system with many political parties “also serves as a decorative ornament” of false democracy. It will help the regime’s daily functioning, “and will be better for absorbing Western technology and wealth.”

Grigoryants also foresaw that conflict within the borders of the former Soviet Union would serve the secret rulers in Moscow. “Baku TV reported the death of two Azerbaijanis,” he said. “For some reason they omitted the fact that Armenians had nothing to do with it. This sufficed to ignite events in Sumgait [see Sumgait pogram] that opened the present round of wars in the Caucasus.” The old imperial game of divide and conquer was at work. Let the Armenians hate the Azerbaijanis, and the Russians hate the Chechens. Ethnic conflict is a good pretext for KGB operations and live fire military exercises.

The new Russian economy, of course, would not be capitalistic according to the Western model. “The CPSU and party elite will never allow an outsider to have serious money or be a big stockholder in any joint venture or publicly held company,” Grigoryants explained. “Wealth and money-power have become a vivid and undoubted prerogative of the same ruling group. The camps and psychiatric prisons are substituted with special operations units and well organized nationalist and hooligan radical elements. Already we have more people murdered in the country than the regime would have imprisoned.” He further added that “power, money and violence are still concentrated in the same hands.”

The great deception was working in 1990, and it has continued to work. “The new authoritarian regime is supported not only by tanks and KGB, but by all of us to a large extent,” Grigoryants lamented. It might be added, as well, that the capitalist world was and is willing to bend over backward to do business with Russia. They will look the other way when the regime shows its real face. And make no mistake; this new regime is more dangerous than the old. “When they give up the bloody methods of the fanatic, they develop new and more dangerous methods,” Grigoryants noted.

When everyone was cheering for the new Russia, when everyone thought democracy would triumph, Grigoryants offered a warning.

“The foreign policy of the USSR after Stalin became more dynamic and dangerous and brought humanity to the verge of catastrophe – like the placement of Soviet rockets in Cuba, and worldwide explosions of terrorism and local wars,” he explained. “It is hard to grasp all the elements of the new regime, but its promise of catastrophe is clearly visible.”

According to Grigoryants, the “infiltration” of Russians and other Soviet persons into Western Europe would take place on a massive scale. People brought up under the Soviet Union can be dynamic and highly effective. Yet they were raised to have a slave-type psychology. Few had the inner strength or resources to resist the regime.

“We had a situation,” he explained, “when every year at least half a million people were released from the prison system. Many were stripped of ethical, moral and cultural norms and standards that are the foundation of European civilization. Now these people are coming to Western Europe. And this is a threat to European culture and civilization because it can destroy the spiritual climate in Europe.”

But the real danger comes with the West’s willingness to go along with Moscow’s lies. “The fantastic success in recent years of the disinformation campaign against the West confirms this,” Grigoryants noted.

“One may say that through the whole Soviet period Western public opinion was never, until now, such a prisoner of so many massive and unreal misperceptions.”

By 1990 Moscow’s disinformation schemes had managed to unite hawks and doves, Marxists and Christian Democrats. All are prisoners, all are taken in. According to Grigoryants,

“The KGB is creating multiple information firms, groups, publishing houses, radio and TV stations and countless enterprises of this nature in the Soviet Union and abroad.” Much of this is paid for with Western money.

Grigoryants added, “The KGB is a unique organization in human history, with more projects outside the country than inside. The KGB is the organization that simultaneously completed the perestroika program inside the country, and the disinformation program outside.

How the KGB will use [these programs] and what it is planning for the future is a burning question that should trouble all humanity. As a colleague said, we have had brown and red totalitarianism but now we will learn of a new color.”

With the death of the Soviet Union in 1991 Grogoryants’ warning was not heeded. The West ceased to fear Communism. After all, there were no more Communists. Perhaps this “fact” could be explained to the people of Venezuela, Nicaragua, South Africa and the Congo. Communism has continued to swallow countries because resistance to Communism fell away after 1991. It has to be understood that the adoption of a private property system in Russia did not signify the triumph of capitalism. It signified a new kind of danger which involves the subversion of capitalism through capitalism itself.

It was the substitution of a new threat for the old.

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: deception; jrnyquist; kgb; nyquist; russia; russianthreat; sourcetitlenoturl; terrorism

1 posted on 05/07/2012 12:39:10 PM PDT by JRNyquist
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To: JRNyquist

:new Russian regime more dangerous then old

New Russian regime more dangerous than old.

2 posted on 05/07/2012 12:48:08 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: JRNyquist

They must be, since we IMMEDIATELY return their spies AS FAST AS POSSIBLE after we capture them.

3 posted on 05/07/2012 12:55:28 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: JRNyquist

I just read your blog entry on a similar topic this morning:

Very interesting stuff.

4 posted on 05/07/2012 12:58:16 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: JRNyquist

1990 was 22 years ago, specifics, rather than large generalizations, now, please.

6 posted on 05/07/2012 1:15:23 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Thank you,

i did not figure yet ho to edit the error

7 posted on 05/07/2012 1:28:14 PM PDT by JRNyquist
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To: JRNyquist

Hit report abuse and let the Moderators know what you’d like fixed.

8 posted on 05/07/2012 1:32:26 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Navy Patriot

You should read the following to begin with

and this report is a must:

very important report here:

But mind this: most of the issues require advanced knowledge and specialized education

But it will be a good start. If you are really interested:

Strategic Crisis Center has a book list of several hundreds sources; also we published thousands of different reports, educating material, and so on.

9 posted on 05/07/2012 1:44:03 PM PDT by JRNyquist
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To: JRNyquist

Since the Soviet Union “collapsed” I always ask people who seem to celebrate the new “peace” and our new “friend”, Did all of the hard-line communists in the Soviet Union suddenly die?

10 posted on 05/07/2012 2:02:05 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
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To: JRNyquist

Well, now we have Russia threatening a pre-emptive military strike against NATO.

I’d say Russia is pretty dangerous these days.

11 posted on 05/07/2012 4:53:26 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: JRNyquist

Earlier 1990s are a time of lost opportunities considering Russian affairs.

It is very likely if Soviet Union was ditched by communist and ‘siloviki’ elites to get rid of toxic assets and Soviet austerity but it is also true that general Russian population was pro-liberty and pro-American at the time and their elites lost much of control and they still not in a full control of their society today.

The problem is they got a democrat type reforms ruining both their economy and society by Clinton-Soros advisors and pro-American mood was spoiled by NATO expanding and US support for muslim uprisings in both Europe and Southern Russia.

They had a chance to build a conservative society with strong post-industrial economy based on extensive and rather technologically advanced Soviet military industrial base swapping extra guns for more butter the way America did after WW2 but their former communist and Clinton-Soros democrat gubmint offered gay rights instead of real liberties and sent industries abroad.

A lot of people disappointed with such a development but they can’t properly define a problem blaming a democracy as an institution and America as a source of Clinton-Soros crap which is a very typical for such a societies as Russia has slided to a third world.

That is actually a reason why it is more dangerous now than Soviet regime.

Soviet Union wasn’t a third world society. It terms of decision making and international posture it was actually close to nations like US considering ideological differences. It wasn’t nice most of the time but it was extremely responsible.

You can’t say that about third world nations like modern Russia. Populism and corruption makes foreign relations, even wars in third world.

BTW, Russian history for the last 30 years is quite interesting and a good lesson for everyone who think some things are too big to fail.

Socialism remnants, miscionception of liberty and liberal corruption denied Russia to reform flushing a world’s second largest $2,7 thrillion economy down the toilet.

US hasn’t started with a command economy but it doesn’t mean that building a corrupt society of anti-liberty freeloaders lacking work ethics won’t work same way.

12 posted on 05/07/2012 8:17:04 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: JRNyquist

bunch of rot. The author has no knowledge or intelligence. The KGB would not have implemented the 8 years of hell under Yeltson.

13 posted on 05/08/2012 7:41:05 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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