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Vikings stadium plan gets Minnesota House approval
Sports Network ^ | May 08, 2012

Posted on 05/08/2012 8:00:08 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

Minneapolis, MN – The new stadium plan for the Minnesota Vikings has received approval from the state's House of Representatives.

After passing by a margin of 73-58, the proposal will next move to the state Senate.

"It's the first hurdle, a couple more to go, but we're really excited," said Vikings vice president Lester Bagley.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: dayton; minnesota; stadium; taxes; vikings
I watched a large part of the debate. It was interesting to see the varying opinions and bedfellows. One Democrat said he was voting in favor of the proposal because it would help women and "people of color." One very left-wing, multi-Ivy League-school educated Rep from Brooklyn, NY said she got over the Dodgers leaving Brooklyn and voted against it. A Republican was somewhat amusing in his vocabulary describing his support of the bill, expanded fireworks, something about added revenue from booze and increased gambling revenue by repeatedly saying "I am not guilty" if someone gets drunks and blows all his money betting.
1 posted on 05/08/2012 8:00:22 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

So the stadium bill is ready to pass, but the Vikings ownership and NFL think it’s outrageous they should have to pay at least half.

The same people who whine about evil rich and corporations “ not paying their fair share” are all for the taxpayer paying most of it.

Another example that people can rationalize anything if it’s something they like.


2 posted on 05/08/2012 8:04:03 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: ConservativeStatement
multi-Ivy League-school educated Rep from Brooklyn, NY

You mean like Norm Coleman? What's with all the Gothamites fleeing to the Land of 10,000 Lakes?

3 posted on 05/08/2012 8:06:56 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TurboZamboni
The varying opinions stated last night was entertaining and enlightening. I didn't see it as a party issue though many in the media are trying to draw the parallel that the R's are the bad guys (shock). I am pretty sure a female Republican who voted against it uttered what you said; that D's want increased taxes on the rich yet want to give the owner a pass.
4 posted on 05/08/2012 8:07:06 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Taxpayers should not be expected to pay for any NFL stadium. Instead, reduce the pay of the obscenely over-paid football players, many of them felons, and put it into a fund for a stadium.


5 posted on 05/08/2012 8:10:13 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Phyllis Kahn. I am unfamiliar with her but she would get a flunking grade based on her debate habits. Bad speaker. Obama without a teleprompter.

Education: B.A., physics, Cornell University; Ph.D., biophysics, Yale University; M.P.A., Harvard University

http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/members/members.asp?id=10302


6 posted on 05/08/2012 8:10:20 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

must be Phyllis. Norm is not a “she” ,but he is a RINO.


7 posted on 05/08/2012 8:11:53 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: ConservativeStatement

People spoke loud, long and strongly about their desire to have no taxpayer money funding a Vikings playground.

We have far too many people in our state Legislature, including in the Republican majority, who are not fit to hold their offices.


8 posted on 05/08/2012 8:12:04 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Cincinnati/Hamilton County residents were screwed bigtime over their stadium deal. The County Commissioner who brokered the deal went on to work for the Bengals. What’s that tell ya?

A Stadium’s Costly Legacy Throws Taxpayers for a Loss
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704461304576216330349497852.html


9 posted on 05/08/2012 8:13:24 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

She’s a leftist moonbat.IIRC, also tried passing legislation to let 16 years olds vote.


10 posted on 05/08/2012 8:13:34 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Wrote this earlier on a related string ... the taxpayers are getting screwed ... they just don't know how badly. Yet.

Lived in the Cincinnati area when Mike Brown, owner of the Bengals, was campaigning for a new stadium. Same BS ... implying that he might move the team to LA. The city fathers of course capitulated and Paul Brown stadium was built ... going over budget by hundreds of thousands of dollars. The tax payers of Hamilton County, many who can’t afford a ticket to a Bengals game, are taking it in the shorts big time. Projected tax revenues that were supposed to increase, in large measure because of the new stadium, never materialized. The half cent increase in the Hamilton County sales tax that was passed by voters at the time of the heist to help fund the stadium (15 years ago) is still in place. What’s even more telling, the Cincinnati Enquirer that heartily endorsed the building of Paul Brown Stadium, within a year were regretting the endorsement ... as reality set in and the inevitable cost over runs began to become apparent.

11 posted on 05/08/2012 8:14:27 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Jane Austen

12 posted on 05/08/2012 8:14:43 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Football is going to be banned so why build it? lol
13 posted on 05/08/2012 8:16:37 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

As an outsider, I don’t know the players in the House. Are you familiar with Tony Cornish? He supported the bill. He was one Rep I mentioned earlier.


14 posted on 05/08/2012 8:17:23 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

He’s an out-state LEO chief . Pro- 2nd Amendment guy.

Authored the failed ‘stand your ground’ and ‘castle doctrine’...


15 posted on 05/08/2012 8:19:44 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: ConservativeStatement
This is from Tony Cornish's campaign website, relative to the 2011 state government shutdown:

"While school districts in the metro area splurge on things like artificial turf for their football fields, we lack even the basic funds to pay for teachers or textbooks. We can't keep going on like this."

Thanks, Tony.

16 posted on 05/08/2012 8:21:41 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

But yes, Tony Cornish is a huge 2A guy. Rock solid there.


17 posted on 05/08/2012 8:22:44 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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To: ConservativeStatement; Bender2
I wonder if they have decided where in the stadium they will put their Super Bowl Trophy Case?
18 posted on 05/08/2012 8:25:48 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

not banned. just diluted to the point of being like watching soccer.


19 posted on 05/08/2012 8:25:49 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

They don’t think it’s outrageous they should have to pay half, they just know that somewhere out there is someplace that would pay more than half. It’s just good business, don’t pay for anything you can get for free. I’m against these stadium deals, but I don’t blame the businesses for elected officials pimping their taxpayers out.


20 posted on 05/08/2012 8:28:44 AM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: discostu

Democrats would burn the cities if Cargill or 3M made similar demands under threat of moving out of state.


21 posted on 05/08/2012 8:40:50 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

King Receives USA Wind Jobs Champion Award
http://steveking.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4360:king-receives-usa-wind-jobs-champion-award&catid=71:press-releases&Itemid=300164

Conservatives will sell you out, too. Their selling price is just higher.


22 posted on 05/08/2012 8:43:11 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

Actually you’d be surprised how regularly lower profile business successful make similar demands. If more than 1 building gets torn down to put in a new single business building eminent domain was almost certainly involved, the city usually bought it cheap, tore everything down on their own dime, and sold it to the business for less than they bought it and maybe even offered tax breaks. The difference is when cities do it for Walgreens nobody pays attention, it all just happens nice and quiet.


23 posted on 05/08/2012 8:48:14 AM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: BluH2o
Same BS ... implying that he might move the team to LA.

I think that not having a team in LA is far more valuable to the NFL than having a team there. Once a team moved there it would be much more difficult for another owner to threaten to move the team to Portland, Oregon in order to get a shiny new taxpayer paid stadium.

24 posted on 05/08/2012 8:53:09 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: TurboZamboni

Welcome to FR. Love your s/n.


25 posted on 05/08/2012 8:54:00 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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To: Jane Austen

Taxpayers should not be expected to pay for any NFL stadium.

Then the taxpayers and the city/county/state shouldn’t benefit from it with increased property, sales, gas, and income tax revenue. The metrodome is used for more than just football and the city/county/state should ask if the stadium has increased tourism and paid for itself since it was open? I’ve been there 3 times and each time we spent money on gas and food outside the stadium that we wouldn’t have if we weren’t going to a game.


26 posted on 05/08/2012 9:32:38 AM PDT by Chainsawj (Looks like I have NOBODY to vote FOR, I'll just vote againest the dems.......AGAIN.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

“We have far too many people in our state Legislature...”

I agree with your complete statement, but you could have stopped there.


27 posted on 05/08/2012 9:33:46 AM PDT by Fireone (Liberalism is a disease. (did I mention FUBO?))
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To: Fireone

Okay, that made me laugh. Well played.


28 posted on 05/08/2012 10:06:11 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

“One Democrat said he was voting in favor of the proposal because it would help women and ‘people of color.’”

Like whom, Adrian Peterson? He’d be better off if the team moved to LA. Or, according to what the MSM covers, being traded to the Patriots or Jets/Giants.


29 posted on 05/08/2012 10:30:50 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: big'ol_freeper

“I wonder if they have decided where in the stadium they will put their Super Bowl Trophy Case?”

When considering the Vikings’ many Superbowl and conference championship game tragedies I am reminded of a quote from Uncle Buck (1989):

“If the object of the game were to get the ball as close to the pins without knocking any ofthem over you would be champion of the world.”


30 posted on 05/08/2012 10:41:48 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
I'm fairly confident it was this person ( http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/members/members.asp?id=15317 ) who also mentioned MLK. My guess is the reference would be that union jobs would have to include women and minorities because I read about that a few weeks ago.
31 posted on 05/08/2012 11:00:20 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: Jane Austen
Taxpayers should not be expected to pay for any NFL stadium. Instead, reduce the pay of the obscenely over-paid football players, many of them felons, and put it into a fund for a stadium.

Now I could vote for that!!!

32 posted on 05/08/2012 11:43:11 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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