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Doctors Urged: Don't Use The Word 'Obese'
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Posted on 05/09/2012 8:27:21 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Sub-Driver

Oh, how ridiculous-a fat ass is a fat ass, any way you say it-and if that person is happy with their body, they are not about to be offended or pressured to change-being happy with yourself is a lot healthier than being depressed and on a starvation diet.

I’m a caveman diet type-5’9’ and 108, and happy at that size. I’m teased by guys at work calling me skinny bitch and offering me bags of chips, cookies and sodas all the time when they see my lunch of raw veggies and tuna. I’m not offended or traumatized by that-nature made us all different-nanny state whiners need to leave everyone alone.


41 posted on 05/09/2012 9:24:50 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw hard line"...)
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To: Sub-Driver

Zaftig (for women)


42 posted on 05/09/2012 9:26:32 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I’m not familiuar with “hogly”-out here, describing a woman as a big ol’ heifer pretty much says it all...


43 posted on 05/09/2012 9:33:29 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw hard line"...)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m 50. Parents of my day used to use “Husky” when refering to fat children.


44 posted on 05/09/2012 9:34:01 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Sub-Driver

http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/symptoms/morbid-obesity/overview.html

The term morbid obesity refers to patients who are 50 - 100% — or 100 pounds above — their ideal body weight. Alternatively, a BMI (body mass index) value greater than 39 may be used to diagnose morbid obesity.

Medical terminology is a stubbornly truthful description


45 posted on 05/09/2012 9:35:40 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Sub-Driver

Same source

Medical problems commonly resulting from untreated morbid obesity include the following:

Diabetes
Hypertension
Heart disease
Stroke
Certain cancers, including breast and colon
Depression
Osteoarthritis
Affected people may gradually develop hypoxemia (decreased blood oxygen saturation) and have problems with sleep apnea (periodic cessation of breathing while asleep).

Decreased blood oxygen and problems associated with sleep apnea may result in feeling drowsy through the day (somnolence), high blood pressure, and pulmonary hypertension. In extreme cases, especially when medical treatment is not sought, this can lead to right-sided heart failure (cor pulmonale), and ultimately death.


46 posted on 05/09/2012 9:38:24 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Sacajaweau

Thank you for saying it, too-if someone is happy/comfortable with their weight, leave them alone. Being happy with one’s body is far more important than being a people pleaser (which happens to be emotionally unhealthy)...


47 posted on 05/09/2012 9:43:13 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw hard line"...)
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To: MrB

“A rose by any other name is still a rose...”


48 posted on 05/09/2012 9:43:22 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Texan5
People are always telling me I have to gain weight because I weigh the same year after year (for 50 years now).

I'm strict about eating a maintenace diet.....but put a pumpkin pie in front of me...and...IT'S GONE !!!

P.S. I drink whole milk...but no soda...calories are about the same....except milk is healthy...scr** the fat content. Chips are a rarity but when I do, it's with French Onion dip. So....I die happy!!!!

49 posted on 05/09/2012 10:08:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sub-Driver

Under the BMI formula and the Govt, Michael Jordan was overweight. There needs to be a more accurate description as to what is obese.


50 posted on 05/09/2012 10:09:12 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Sacajaweau; All

“Overweight” and “Obese” Celebrities and Sports Stars

The federal government defines “overweight” and “obese” using the body mass index (BMI), a simple calculation based only on height and weight. “Normal” weight is defined as a BMI between 18.5 and 24.9. “Overweight” is defined as a BMI between 25 and 29.9. “Obese” is a BMI of 30 or higher.

Are these classifications meaningful? According to the government standard, Tom Cruise, Sylvester Stallone, and Mel Gibson are technically obese. So are sluggers Sammy Sosa and Barry Bonds, boxer Mike Tyson, quarterback Donovan McNabb, and wrestling superstar The Rock. And if politics is your thing, it turns out that California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger—a bodybuilding legend—is obese, too.

It’s not just the official category of obesity that has been affected by numerical hocus-pocus. Thirty-five million Americans went to sleep one night in 1998 at a government-approved weight and woke up “overweight” the next morning, thanks to a change in the government’s definition. That group includes currently “overweight” celebrities like Will Smith and Pierce Brosnan, as well as NBA stars Kobe Bryant and LeBron James. It even includes George W. Bush, considered the most fit president in U.S. history. “Overweight” had previously been defined as a BMI of 27.8 for men and 27.3 for women; in 1998 it was lowered to a BMI of 25 for both genders.

The 1998 redefinition prompted a group of researchers to criticize the new threshold in The American Journal of Public Health. They wrote:

“Current interpretations of the revised guidelines stigmatize too many people as overweight, fail to account for sex, race/ethnicity, age, and other differences; and ignore the serious health risks associated with low weight and efforts to maintain an unrealistically lean body mass … This seeming rush to lower the standard for overweight to such a level that 55% of American adults find themselves being declared overweight or obese raises serious concerns.”
A research letter published in JAMA (the journal of the American Medical Association) reported that 97 percent of players in the National Football League are technically overweight and more than 50 percent are obese. The NFL responded by calling the BMI “bogus,” since it “doesn’t consider body muscle versus fat.”

“Before calling it an epidemic, people really need to understand what the numbers do and don’t say.”
— Rockefeller University professor Jeffrey Friedman in The New York Times, 2004

By redefining the definition of “overweight” the federal government made more that 35 million Americans overweight - more than doubling the size of the category. In 2004, the redefinition counts an additional 22% of Americans as officially fat.


51 posted on 05/09/2012 10:13:09 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

No - you just don’t use the BMI for people like Jordan. This is basically always pointed out on the BMI websites. Probably a horrible analogy but if you’re drafting a punter for the NFL you probably don’t care about their 40 yard time - it’s not a useful metric in that situation. You use some other metric.


52 posted on 05/09/2012 10:15:36 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; Perdogg

But - having said that - most of the people I see in malls and at airports are fat like Eric Cartman, not technically over some BMI limit like Michael Jordan.

My soapbox is that while the govt has sold us a bill of goods on just about everything else, on this one issue they happen to be right - we as a nation ARE getting fatter. And significantly so.

Note this is not to endorse any govt. program to intervene - emphatically not - only to say that the stopped clock is occasionally right.


53 posted on 05/09/2012 10:18:50 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: KarlInOhio

Cartman: I’m not fat. I’m big-boned.
Stan: No, Jay Leno’s chin is big-boned. You are a big, fat ass.


54 posted on 05/09/2012 10:22:40 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Cartman: I’m not fat. I’m big-boned.
Stan: No, Jay Leno’s chin is big-boned. You are a big, fat ass.


55 posted on 05/09/2012 10:23:33 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: GreenHornet
How about “Lard Ass?”


56 posted on 05/09/2012 10:28:23 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: dfwgator

I guess I’m obese. I’m 69 years old, 5’8” and weigh 198. I weighed 175 when I finished basic training in 1960. Now, after two triple bypasses, I’m currently “wearing” a defibrillator. I used to run 3-5 miles a day and now, after a quasi disastrous bypass four years ago, I’m reduced to walking (more like shuffling) for 40 minutes a day. My defib put in almost six weeks ago, and next week, the doctor said I can go back to the gym.


57 posted on 05/09/2012 10:42:41 AM PDT by Ax
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To: Sub-Driver

I prefer “Rubenesque” or “Jabba the Hutt-like” or my current fav “gravitationally enhanced”.


58 posted on 05/09/2012 11:02:19 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Same here-MrT5 was 5’10” and never weighed more than 145 in all the time I knew him-he was small boned, as I am, and although his real job was at a desk, his weekend job was carpentry/furniture making. I do physical work for a living, and have for years. The people who tell me I’m too thin are mostly women who need to get rid of at least 30 pounds and couldn’t do the work I do for more than 2 hours of an 8 to 10 hour day.

I have always hated milk-I eat yogurt and cheese instead-I was brought up on a ranch where home grown and free-range was all there was, so I never developed a liking for sweets, or salt. I don’t like starch much, either, but I do bake wholewheat bread, cornbread and biscuits now and then in winter.

My diet is heavy on the raw and cooked veggies, and fresh fruit for breakfast-free range meat, no processed food unless I’m unable to get fresh. That doesn’t happen nuch, since I live in a rural area-I grow a lot of my veggies and some of my neighbors butcher livestock and sell chicken, beef and pork in spring and fall. My neighbor up the hill keeps bees, so I can get fresh honey, too.


59 posted on 05/09/2012 11:27:51 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw hard line"...)
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To: nevergore

The problem is that Government, Insurance and companies are setting policy based on BMI.

BMI measures BMI, not health or fitness.


60 posted on 05/09/2012 11:50:33 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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