Posted on 05/09/2012 7:41:42 PM PDT by tcrlaf
A Sukhoi Superjet 100 performing a demonstration flight for media, airline and aviation personnel with 46 people onboard crashed near a mountain in Indonesia on Wednesday. Their fate was not immediately known, as a search and rescue operation had to be called off due to bad weather.
Contact with the 100-seat jet (registration RA-97004) was lost about 20 minutes after takeoff from Halim Perdanakusuma Airport in Jakarta, according to early reports. An official told Reuters that that radio contact was lost with the plane after it descended from 10,000 feet to 6,000 feet. It disappeared from radar near the 7,200-ft Mount Salak.
Several Indonesian airlines, aerospace and travel concerns, along with two media organizations were represented onboard, according to a passenger manifest published by the Kompas newspaper. Sky Aviation, a new regional carrier with 12 Superjets on order, had 10 employees onboard, while Kartika Airlines, which has ordered 30 Superjets, had one rep onboard.
The list also included reps from Airfast Indonesia, Pelita Air, Sriwijaya Airlines, Air Maleo, Aviastar, Angkasa Pura, Dirgantara Indonesia, Snecma, Indo Asia, PT KAI, Carpedrem Mardin and TR. Also onboard were reporters from Bloomberg and Trans TV.
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Anyone who has paid attention at all to international travel for the last 2-3 decades knows this one rule:
DON’T FLY ON RUSSIAN / SOVIET AIRLINERS!
Or CHINESE...
Having worked on there version of a Trans-Atlantic Jet Liner the IL62M there carbon copy of the VC10 but as usual they did not steal the weight and balance an had to add a Tail Wheel to it...Many times we filled there H2O with degerm instead of the toilets all ids were in Russian. Had to go up on them twice at Pan Ams World Port and was stopped by a lady in PAN AM WHITE COVERALLS that I was wearing an she wanted to know where was the air cond they had none.....Galleys had used 1937 Nash Kelvinator Refrigs in them with electric frying pans to cook the food no micro waves on board all toilets were ceramic ala 1927 USA....An you wonder why they crash? The belly areas had 2 inch thick beaver board for floor boards. No nets so bags bounced all over the place???????
Telephone on tree in middle of field looked like samovar from 1936 Russian sub.... but you could direct dial US and put on AT&T phone card!
Mechanic put one liter of oil in right radial engine of twin counter-rotating blade helicopter every 30 minutes. Never pull the oil dipstick, just add oil. So much smoke it looked like they were spraying for mosquitos. No mag check, no pre-flight, just fly it.
Pilots shack just like here in US; pictures of naked women, MiG instead of US fighters, and Sky Kings Cessna 310!
Telephone on tree in middle of field looked like samovar from 1936 Russian sub.... but you could direct dial US and put on AT&T phone card!
Mechanic put one liter of oil in right radial engine of twin counter-rotating blade helicopter every 30 minutes. Never pull the oil dipstick, just add oil. So much smoke it looked like they were spraying for mosquitos. No mag check, no pre-flight, just fly it.
Pilots shack just like here in US; pictures of naked women, MiG instead of US fighters, and Sky Kings Cessna 310!
“I’ve flown on Aeroflot, and swore I’d walk if I had to fly with them again....
A buddy of mine said the same thing. He said he had a few Vodka’s.”
I disagree.
I’ve flown Aeroflot, Aeroflot-Don, and S7 on many trips to and throughout Russia, going back to the days of the Tupolev TU-154. I had heard of all the horror stories, and was very nervous on the first trip.
Instead, I found all of my flights to be as good as or better than any domestic flights I had flown. The flights were smooth, the service excellent, and believe it or not, the food was great! Plus, all drinks were free.
I would recommend Aeroflot to anyone.
“Airport” still there at Google Earth:
51 17 10.31 North
30 11 58.76 East
Enjoy
Had a friend fly Aeroflop once out of Kazyakistan and he said the only ones on the plane not smoking were the dogs.
Happy I do not fly in/out of Indonesia any longer, much less on a damn ruski suk!! After a few Indonesia flights you could sleep on a ScareWest flight.
Okay.
Not at all. We have seen this sort of thing before in Russian Aviation. Remember the reason the airliner with the Polish president crashed, the Poles say the pilot got bad orders, the Russians say the pilot didn't correctly follow orders.
The question is who was on the plane? The last report I saw on this said the passengers were foreign nationals and eight Russians. Foreign nationals from where?
Of all the flights I’ve taken, the spookiest was Ely, NV to Elko, NV. Shake, rattle and roll over the mountains (through the pass in the Ruby Mnts). One year after I left the mine near Carlin, a friend of mine broke his ankle in a very lucky crash during a too low decent into Elko. Twelve passenger metro liners as I recall.
The crash in Indonesia is quite tragic. It sure sounds like pilot error.
I guessing the Russians lost the sale.
I don’t know who they were but, this pic says it all about this crash
http://avherald.com/img/sukhoi_su95_ra-97004_jakarta_120509_2.jpg
Me too... way back when they were building the first McDonald's in Moscow. The flight (Helsinki to Moscow) was packed with Finnish workers because the USSR couldn't get anyone to work.
A bit of a rickety plane, but not as bad as Faucett (Peru) or Air Algeria.
Your buddy is one lucky fool....
“January 16, 1990
A commuter plane crashed while trying to land in a snowstorm today, injuring all 16 people on board, officials said.
But most of the passengers walked away from the crash. Four people, including the captain, were admitted to Elko General Hospital, and 12 others were treated and released, a nursing supervisor said. All four of those hospitalized were in fair condition.
Federal Aviation Administration officials said the plane, SkyWest Flight 5855, was flying from Salt Lake City to Elko when it crashed about 9:30 A.M. west of the airport in this town of 8,800 people in northeastern Nevada.
The wreckage was spotted by a helicopter pilot who returned to Elko to fly medical personnel to the scene and to airlift the most seriously injured to the hospital.
No one aboard had been thrown from the plane and the fuselage of the aircraft was intact on the northeastern face of the mountain, said Pete Schory of Salt Lake City, one of the rescuers.”
The problem facing other carriers is they have maintenance fqrmed out to southeast Asia locations and how well they actually do it there is questionable.
Accidental,deliberate or stupid hot-dogging?
We always drove from Ely to Elko. Didn’t know anyone flew. SLC to Ely on some “mail carrier” was an “experience” as well, probably lucky it was not ScareWest.
Best thing about flying into Elko it landed coming low over the Stockman’s and could get a glimps of the Star and thinking of dinner, yummie. Star definately the best Basque although Nevada Dinner House was a close 2nd, Biltoki once was enough.
We always drove from Ely to Elko. Didn’t know anyone flew. SLC to Ely on some “mail carrier” was an “experience” as well, probably lucky it was not ScareWest.
Best thing about flying into Elko it landed coming low over the Stockman’s and could get a glimps of the Star and thinking of dinner, yummie. Star definately the best Basque although Nevada Dinner House was a close 2nd, Biltoki once was enough.
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