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The Ghastly Hellhole of Camp 14
Townhall.com ^ | May 10, 2012 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 05/10/2012 4:49:39 AM PDT by Kaslin

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C'mon now, this article can't be true, it must all be lies, after all would the Great Liberator George W. Bush have taken such a savage regime like North Korea OFF the list of terrorist supporting nations unless they had mended their ways?

[Fact: GWB did exactly that in late 2008]

We all know that after GWB essentially legitimized Kim Jong Il with that action, that North Korea returned to the (ahem, har har) 'Six Party Talks', we reached a negotiated settlement regarding Pyongyang's nuclear weapons program, and Kim Jong Un is now our new 'Partner for Peace' in the Pacific.

Didn't anybody get the memo?
61 posted on 05/10/2012 11:43:01 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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62 posted on 05/10/2012 2:44:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: majormaturity
That which you've mentioned have much been on the record already. What needs to also be understood in that equation is:

1. The people will fight against any nation intervening...they are fully brainwashed to do so. I do not see enough numbers willing to take that stand...and surely were it so the people would have done so long ago..in mass.

2. China will oppose any intervention....they see N.Korea as a puffer Zone for their nation...they could care less about the people. And they certainly don't want to see a mass immigration into their country were war to ensue.

3. You have a population which has the mindset of the 50’s. ...in all respects. Very few work skills if any which can adapt to todays technology. Nation building would be a monumental task to update the nation even to sustain itself with the basics...their entire infrastructure is completely shot....and you'd have to bring in skilled workers to even get it off the ground...and the people will revolt against that as well.

4. The S, Korean "people" are not desiring of a grand exodus into their country by people who willl immediately crash their welfare system. Take their jobs and the like. They know the changes must happen IN N.Korea...and not by war.

The obstacles are horrendous in helping a people who, for the most part, do not want help. The shock itself of seeing how they've been mis-lead and abused for well over 50 years would create un imaginable sorrow and a host of other emotional outrages...especially on why the nations didn't come to assist sooner. .....All the stories of those coming out have the same ring...mental adjustments are enormous, and often mental illnesses must be addressed.

Now I'm not saying it can't be done....but tell me in the economic climate of the world today what nations are going to come together to undertake such an endeavor? Well they just aren't going to do so. At least any time soon...at best N.Korea will be “contained” as much as possible until all the people are willing to rise....and they aren't there ....Yet.

BTW They've been dropping videos, cameras, leaflets, balloons, monies etc. for years now.....in order to inform the people....but be assured their is opposition and propaganda against that as well..and heavily so.

63 posted on 05/10/2012 8:58:35 PM PDT by caww
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One added thing....what would you do with these people who have lived, been born in, and known only torterous living for generations...the “norm” for them. Who haven’t a clus what normal day to day life requires....meaning they’ve not made decisions for themsleves....they don’t know how to. And this is a consistant problem just with those who come into S.Korea who have not been in the prisons. This is no small number of people...as followes:

The number of prisoners held in the North Korean gulag is not known:..... one estimate is 200,000, held in 12 or more centres. ....Camp 22 is thought to hold 50,000.

Who is going to see to these people and the extensive reorientation that will take years for individuals to rehabilitate?

I’ve been watching N.Korea for several years now and more times than not been heartbroken for what they must endure.....nobody has a solution that can ‘rescue” them....they must find within themsleves the desire to be free.....and only God can move the hearts who will to rise up and take their country back to the people.

Look what we’re doing in our own country, and how many people are more than willing to let it slip away.....just for persepctive....and we are “free”.


64 posted on 05/10/2012 9:28:53 PM PDT by caww
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