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To: TMA62

Maybe NJ, NH and MA are possibly in play. I think WI might be in play, same with PA. I’d me astounded if MI and WA don’t go all the way for Zero. Any northern state with a major urban core is going to be a long shot for a Republican. Between the dependent parasite masses, the prog True Believers and the Dem fraud machine those places are going to give Zero overwhelming numbers of votes.


69 posted on 05/10/2012 9:44:23 AM PDT by jboot (Emperor: "How will this end?" Kosh: "In fire.")
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To: jboot; ElkGroveDan; TMA62; cripplecreek
69 posted on Thu May 10 2012 11:44:23 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by jboot: “I’d be astounded if MI and WA don’t go all the way for Zero. Any northern state with a major urban core is going to be a long shot for a Republican. Between the dependent parasite masses, the prog True Believers and the Dem fraud machine those places are going to give Zero overwhelming numbers of votes.”

I lived in Michigan for most of my life and know its political situation well. On the statewide level, Michigan politics for a very long time has been a contest based on trying to get outstate Michigan to counterbalance Democratic votes out of Detroit.

The “Reagan Democrats” changed that equation to some extent because traditional Roman Catholic union voters upset about the abortion issue were willing to vote Republican. Similar dynamics appeared in some key places in West Michigan and rural northern Michigan area, in which places that reliably voted Democrat for legislative and local races were willing to vote Republican on the presidential level and sometimes for statewide pro-life candidates.

The economic collapse of Detroit and Flint has reduced the power of that Democratic voting block, but has also reduced the number of “Reagan Democrats.” Significant numbers of those voters are now retired and living outside of Michigan.

Complicating the mix in the last decade has been Dearborn and the immigrant Middle Eastern vote, which was once leaning Republican but has become heavily Democrat since 9/11. (And yes, I'm very much aware that immigrant Arabs are often Christian rather than Muslim, but a perception has developed that Republicans are pro-Israel and anti-Arab, and that means a fair number of Christian Arabs are voting against the Republican Party.)

The end result is that while Michigan is winnable for a conservative statewide Republican candidate, it much more difficult for a Republican presidential candidate. Not totally impossible, but definitely more difficult.

109 posted on 05/14/2012 11:21:32 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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