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To: DannyTN

“Names an openly gay man as his primary spokesman.”

FALSE: Grenell was hired to speak for Romney on national security/foreign policy issues, not as his primary spokesman. He has since resigned.


“Critizes the Boy Scouts for not allowing gay troop leaders.”

FALSE: Had a different opinion but did not criticize. In fact, he praised them. “I believe that the Boy Scouts of America does a wonderful service for this country. I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue. I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.”


“Claims he is against pro marriage, even though he personally implemented gay marraige in Mass as governor, doing more for gay marriage than Obama has done as president.”

He obeyed a court order, on the last possible day. Should republican pro-life governors be blamed for allowing abortion in their states as well? Which one stood up to the court and said I will not allow Roe vs Wade to control my state?


“Look at the actions, not the words.”

He then went on to push a constitutional amendment to ban homosexual marriage and held a rally at the courthouse when the legislature held up considering it.


“Words get etch-a-sketched. Actions tell his values.”

He banned state officials from marrying homosexuals from other states to keep MA from becoming the Las Vegas of homosexual marriage. He is faithful to his wife. He is a capitalist not a marxist like Obama.


34 posted on 05/10/2012 9:16:48 PM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: icwhatudo

I’ts good of you to factually rebut nonsense and do so without the emotion and hyperbole that ranters bring to the discussion ...

facts are stubborn things ...

“Names an openly gay man as his primary spokesman.”

FALSE: Grenell was hired to speak for Romney on national security/foreign policy issues, not as his primary spokesman. He has since resigned.
“Critizes the Boy Scouts for not allowing gay troop leaders.”

FALSE: Had a different opinion but did not criticize. In fact, he praised them. “I believe that the Boy Scouts of America does a wonderful service for this country. I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue. I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.”
“Claims he is against pro marriage, even though he personally implemented gay marraige in Mass as governor, doing more for gay marriage than Obama has done as president.”

He obeyed a court order, on the last possible day. Should republican pro-life governors be blamed for allowing abortion in their states as well? Which one stood up to the court and said I will not allow Roe vs Wade to control my state?
“Look at the actions, not the words.”

He then went on to push a constitutional amendment to ban homosexual marriage and held a rally at the courthouse when the legislature held up considering it.
“Words get etch-a-sketched. Actions tell his values.”

He banned state officials from marrying homosexuals from other states to keep MA from becoming the Las Vegas of homosexual marriage. He is faithful to his wife. He is a capitalist not a marxist like Obama.


38 posted on 05/10/2012 9:42:14 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: icwhatudo

Thanks for the info.


40 posted on 05/10/2012 9:49:23 PM PDT by what's up
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To: icwhatudo
34 posted on Thu May 10 2012 23:16:48 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by icwhatudo: “He banned state officials from marrying homosexuals from other states to keep MA from becoming the Las Vegas of homosexual marriage. He is faithful to his wife. He is a capitalist not a marxist like Obama.”

Sounds like the 1980 Democratic Party primary in which conservative Southern Democratic voters had to decide whether to vote for Jimmy Carter or Teddy Kennedy. One guy has a decent moral life but a bunch of bad positions on issues, and the other guy is a left-wing radical whose positions were much worse.

Unfortunately, there's no Ronald Reagan out there to whom we can jump ship out of frustration this fall with a realistic expectation of victory. We can either cast a protest vote for the Constitution Party hoping they'll become viable later, and thereby guarantee Obama's re-election, or vote for the lesser of two evils.

54 posted on 05/11/2012 8:34:35 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: icwhatudo
It wasn't his main spokesman, just his main spokesman for all national security and foreign affairs issues. And he wasn't just an openly gay man, he was a gay activist. And while he resigned, Romney issued a statement that they wish he hadn't.

"Had a different opinion but did not criticize."

Offering a different opinion is criticizing. He should have stopped after saying he supported the Boy Scouts right to decide. He can't have it both ways by saying they have the right to decide but they ought to decide x.

We don't need a politician that speaks out of both sides of his mouth. And regardless, Romney's opinion clearly indicates that he doesn't recognize the danger of having homosexuals participate in boy scout leadership positions. Nor does he recognize the Boy Scouts traditional recognization of God and God's laws which forbid homosexuality.

He obeyed a court order, on the last possible day.

Not true according to these articles. He not only did not have a legal obligation, what he did was illegal.

"Although he had no legal obligation, and many legal scholars informed him that it was both illegal and unconstitutional to do so, Romney began handing out marriage licenses to “same-sex couples.” In fact, he ordered justices of the peace in the state to comply or be fired. " The Mitt split

Romney's Views on Gay Marriage: Also evolving (Which romney?)

71 posted on 05/11/2012 2:11:31 PM PDT by DannyTN
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