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FW de Klerk: not all aspects of apartheid 'morally repugnant'
The Telegraph ^ | 11 May 2012 | Aislinn Laing

Posted on 05/14/2012 7:53:15 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Nelson Mandela and F.W. de Klerk hold their hands high as they address a huge crowd of people in front of the Union Building after the first presidential inauguration in 1994

The Nobel Peace Prize winner said not all aspects of apartheid were "morally repugnant", and that there was "merit" in the notion of ethnic groups living apart but that in South Africa, the experiment had not worked.

In a CNN interview, Mr de Klerk said he had made a "profound apology" about the injustices wrought by apartheid on many occasions.

"What I haven't apologised for is the original concept of seeking to bring justice to all South Africans through the concept of nation states (essentially creating two separate states, one black and one white)," he said.

The introduction of separate homelands began in the 1950s and saw black South Africans, who made up about 80 per cent of the population, moved into "bantustans" accounting for around 13 per cent of the country's land, while whites held on to the remaining portion.

Many people were uprooted from their homes to be moved into impoverished homelands but, because of the lack of work there, had to apply for permits to live and work in white areas.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apartheid; deklerk; fwdeklerk; mandela; southafrica

1 posted on 05/14/2012 7:53:20 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

He’s right. We should declare the west coast states to be the left wing homeland, and purify the real America. They can have NYC, northern NJ, and Philadelphia just to show we don’t have any hard feelings.


2 posted on 05/14/2012 8:04:37 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: freedomfiter2
Hey, careful, there's some normal people here in NJ ! some since before it was NJ.



http://www.petersenshunting.com/2011/12/19/one-of-the-largest-black-bears-in-north-american-history-killed-in-n-j/
3 posted on 05/14/2012 9:14:15 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

When you make a nice table, everyone wants to sit at it.


4 posted on 05/14/2012 9:54:23 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Cogito cogito)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“When you make a nice table, everyone wants to sit at it.”

Especially, when you kick people off their land and from their homes and relegate them to some strange “homeland,” they have a tendency to want to return to that table where they once owned homes, but were forcibly removed.


5 posted on 05/14/2012 10:56:04 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton

Unless, after the event in history, you make them a nice table.

Which is what Mr de Klerk says he failed to do.

This is like why the so-called Palestinian refugees are kept in poor overcrowded camps.


6 posted on 05/15/2012 3:04:20 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Cogito cogito)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Nice bear.


7 posted on 05/15/2012 4:07:27 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Ethnic cleansing and genocide is an “experiment?”


8 posted on 05/15/2012 12:02:50 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: Uncle Slayton

Tell that to Native Americans...


9 posted on 05/15/2012 12:13:07 PM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Jimmy Carter seems to be okay with some aspects of apartheid in Saudi Arabia against non-muslims. Then again, his Saudi masters pay him to be a good boy.


10 posted on 05/15/2012 12:28:31 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: wastedyears

Afrikaners did really mess up. They had an opportunity to incorporate Blacks into their country in the mid 20th Century but instead they implemented Apartheid which meant that the country was inevitably heading to a sewer.


11 posted on 05/15/2012 1:15:31 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Rhodesia supposedly tried to do that. They got Mugabe instead.


12 posted on 05/15/2012 3:42:41 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: MinorityRepublican
Afrikaners did really mess up. They had an opportunity to incorporate Blacks into their country in the mid 20th Century but instead they implemented Apartheid which meant that the country was inevitably heading to a sewer.

Unlike the United States great success in fully integrating all races into the mainstream of American life.

13 posted on 05/15/2012 6:19:04 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can’t be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Uncle Slayton
Especially, when you kick people off their land and from their homes and relegate them to some strange “homeland,” they have a tendency to want to return to that table where they once owned homes, but were forcibly removed.

What homes? The ancestors of most of the blacks now in South Africa came from further north, seeking jobs in white-developed areas. As for the "table" (built-up areas, working modern farms, factories, etc), it was built by the white colonists. Once it was built, you had people coming in and desiring to sit at the table.

In retrospect, I think many South Africans may be thinking the colonization of North America was the better model.

14 posted on 05/15/2012 6:27:10 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can’t be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Sarcastic?


15 posted on 05/15/2012 6:54:51 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: PapaBear3625

American Indians died out because they had no immunity to European Diseases. Not so with Africans.


16 posted on 05/15/2012 7:04:58 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
Sarcastic?

Did it really need a </sarc> tag?

17 posted on 05/16/2012 4:08:58 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can’t be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
American Indians died out because they had no immunity to European Diseases. Not so with Africans.

In the early stages, yes. After a few generations, though, the only ones left were the ones with some degree of immunity. Those were mostly eliminated through conventional means: driving them away from their food supplies so that they died from malnutrition and starvation, or just getting shot.

18 posted on 05/16/2012 4:12:24 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can’t be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Well, there is the little issue that they did the same things to people there before them, so I wouldn’t get too cross.


19 posted on 05/16/2012 4:26:56 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

No offense, but the Blacks in SA are doing so well now (/sarcasm).

I have always thought the Afrikaaners should have created a method of limiting the franchise that didn’t exclude blacks but kept most of them from voting - say, literacy and knowledge of their charter, constitution, whatever, and applied it evenly to blacks, coloreds and whites.

Hell, we should use that one here.

Failing that, they should have co-opted one group of blacks (like the Zulus), given them the franchise, and used them to keep the rest of the blacks in check.


20 posted on 05/16/2012 4:40:01 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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