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To: HKMk23

You people are a riot.

I tell you about something I have, and it differs from your worldview 1 IOTA, so you are SOOOOO offended, and SOOOOO convicted, that you launch into a 10+ paragraph diatribe.

Just like when I said to a bunch of modern Christians I don’t want to celebrate halloween. I didn’t tell them what they had to do. I just said WHAT I DO.

And they get SOOOOO offended, they get SOOOOO convicted, that they do the same kind of thing as you.

Look, oh-so-gracious man. IT IS WRONG to display God as a dead-eyed cartoon. IT IS WRONG to use Jesus Christ as a swear, which is another part I cut. So I choose to cut those bits out.

If you are convicted by MY ACTIONS, don’t come to me crying about my “lack of grace”, when I didn’t even say one word about what you should do.


35 posted on 05/15/2012 1:18:17 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: HKMk23

And clearly I do see the difference, which is why I have all but 2 minutes of the movie, and haven’t even considered the others you mention.

I’m reminded of a conversation with a Ron Paulite the other day, when I said I liked Ron Paul’s positions apart from his mideast positions, and the Ron Paulite got all crazy at my difference from his ideas. I was trying to be conciliatory, I was trying to emphasize our similarities, but it wasn’t good enough. He wanted 100% compliance or nothing.


36 posted on 05/15/2012 1:24:20 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
I tell you about something I have, and it differs from your worldview 1 IOTA, so you are SOOOOO offended...

I'm not offended at all; I'm just saying that you oughta loosen up, or all of your retirement money is going to get wasted on Pepto-Bismol and Ex-Lax.

FWIW, I totally understand your desire to edit out the bits of movie scripts where the actors take the Name of the Lord in vain, or give utterance to other foul language. I just don't count the God cartoon scene in "The Holy Grail" as blasphemous; the things God says in that bit are actually quite in line with Who He really is, if you think about it for a moment. Look, their script has God saying, "Oh stop that grovelling! I hate it when people grovel. Always 'Forgive me this,' and 'Forgive me that,' and I'm not worthy..."

The Python crew gets it right on the groveling and worthiness. God really does hate it when His people grovel; Christ died to give us free access to the throne of grace; to enable us to come boldly before Him, and in Christ all are made worthy. Seeing as God has paid such an exorbitant price for us to be worthy to come to Him without groveling, how do you think He feels when people grovel before Him as if He hadn't paid any price at all? It seems to me that, if a Christian were to grovel before God, it would be like a slap in His face; totally discounting the sacrifice Jesus made at Calvary. and consider the parable of the Prodigal Son; when he returned home to his father, planning to grovel before him and beg forgiveness, his father preempted all of that by running out to meet him; swallowing up all of the grovelling nonsense in his loving embrace. So, seeing as the script in the movie actually does portray God's character fairly accurately, I don't regard it as necessary to edit it out.

IT IS WRONG to display God as a dead-eyed cartoon.

Please. And I suppose that there are many former Sunday School curriculum artists and illustrators of Christian children's books now burning in Hell for it, also?

But, assuming you're 100% right, should Christians go bat guano crazy over drawings and paintings depicting God, or Jesus like the muzzies who wig out over drawings of Mohammed?

Oh, and — incidentally — "swear" is a verb.

38 posted on 05/16/2012 1:48:22 PM PDT by HKMk23 (GOPe 2012 MITT HAPPENS)
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