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From left to right: President of the European Commission Jose Manuel Barroso, one of the Eurogroup Jean-Claude Juncker and the European Council Herman Van Rompuy, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, in the wheelchair, the German finance minister Wolfgang Schäuble.

1 posted on 05/15/2012 9:26:48 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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ping


2 posted on 05/15/2012 9:28:33 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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Gee, isn’t socialism a wonderful thing.


3 posted on 05/15/2012 9:36:07 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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My take on these international monetary crises is a little more contrarian than the standard hype we hear from Wall St.

If the Greeks were smart they’d do what Iceland did and tell the world bankers who hold their debt to get lost. They’ll pay a big price for their reckless debt but they’ll regain what they lost and that is sovereignty. I’d wager that the central banks of other EU countries and US Fed will come to their aid before they actually leave.

I’m not saying it is right but these international treaties and agreements such as WTO, IMF, and international obligations through our Fed Reserve, that our own USA politicians have signed, steals the sovereignty and rights of us citizens.

The world financiers and corporations want their hooks in and have all countries with weakened sovereign rights and Constitutions through treaties and multi-lateral agreements where citizens lose their rights and power. Our founders warned us about entanglements.

Countries need to be self sufficient and look after their own and be accountable only to their own.

If Greece does leave the EU I will predict that their country will face a significant short term crisis but they will recover just as Iceland did.


4 posted on 05/15/2012 9:58:35 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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Austerity? To my knowledge, there have been no significant cuts in government spending in Greece, France, or even Germany. From what I've read, all they've done is cut back on the rate of expansion. I do find the Greeks quite funny, though. “Give us unlimited credit, i.e. let us keep spending your money, and we'll stay in the Euro!” LOL! Even more amazing, the Euroweenies have so far cooperated for the most part.
5 posted on 05/15/2012 10:05:00 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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All over the world: from Bernie Madoff, to Greece, to “Carbon Credits” - people are being ruined and their wealth is being destroyed. Often done casually by the people in charge.

It’s just amazing to me. Don’t people kill for money? You’d think someone would stop these socialist destroyers.


6 posted on 05/15/2012 10:20:36 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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Greece is better off as a percent of debt to GDP than Germany, UK, France, Netherlands, Sweden, and especially Ireland at 1,240% of GDP.

Search CNBC’s “Largest Debtor Nations” slideshow and loose your cookies after looking at the numbers, especially per capita.

10 posted on 05/15/2012 11:45:53 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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The EU fiasco reveals astonishing delusion on the part of the common mice who simply have no concept of where all the free shit they demand comes from and vote for politicians who roll their eyes, laugh to themselves, and promise them more “free shit” in order to get elected. The voters in Greece (and France) are no different than the bums, deadbeats, and parasites who comprise the Democrat party “base” here in America. And like old Europe’s scum, it is only a matter of time before America’s socialist politicians (the Democrats) also have to admit that they’ve run out of other people’s money.


11 posted on 05/16/2012 12:04:52 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Global lenders face 'killer losses' on Greek debt

And they've had how many years to prepare for this?

It sounds like, once again, they have bet on the bailout. And that's what happens when you remove moral hazard as a way of maintaining market sanity. You get a lot more insanity.

14 posted on 05/16/2012 3:04:51 AM PDT by dirtboy
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