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Revealed: China's first stealth jet heads on test runs - ..
UK Daily Mail ^ | May 18, 2012 | Eddie Wrenn

Posted on 05/18/2012 6:21:44 AM PDT by C19fan

Flying over the skies of Chengdu in southwest China, the Chinese's latest stealth plane - the J-20 Might Dragon - is a testament to China's growing prowess in military technology. The debut flight of the plane may serve as a warning to the U.S. air force, which has been plagued by a list of problems in their jets - including the revelation that some of their jets have a faulty oxygen system which have slowly been poisoning their pilots. Sightings of the black plane taking off have again led to claims that the plane was developed off the back of stolen U.S. or Russian plans, a claim strongly denied by China.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; stealth
Looks like the Chinese designers are big fans of the Clint Eastwood Firefox.
1 posted on 05/18/2012 6:21:47 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Credit where due, at least they didn't copy our stealth fighter designs.

2 posted on 05/18/2012 6:26:09 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar

Canard wings.
Yeah, that’s high tech.


3 posted on 05/18/2012 6:28:41 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Hodar

Looks like canard configuration they better have good computers. They copy everything.


4 posted on 05/18/2012 6:28:43 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Hodar

I dunno, looks alot like an F22 with a canard.


5 posted on 05/18/2012 6:29:05 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: C19fan
Meanwhile...

From the campaign trail, February 2008:

Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs

February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com

A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.

The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:

Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you've been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.

First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[not win it -etl]

Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.

I will not weaponize space.

I will slow our development of future combat systems.

And I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert [they are NOT on "hair-trigger alert" now -etl], and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

You know where I stand. I've fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don't switch positions or make promises that can't be kept. I don't posture on defense policy and I don't take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.

Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:
http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp

"MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States."
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"I will not weaponize space"

"I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems"
_____________________________________________________

2008 Pentagon Report (March 2008):
China's Growing Military Space Power

By Leonard David
Special Correspondent, SPACE.com
March 6, 2008

GOLDEN, Colorado — A just-released Pentagon report spotlights a growing U.S. military concern that China is developing a multi- dimensional program to limit or prevent the use of space-based assets by its potential adversaries during times of crisis or conflict.

Furthermore, last year's successful test by China of a direct-ascent, anti-satellite (ASAT) weapon to destroy its own defunct weather satellite, the report adds, underscores that country's expansion from the land, air, and sea dimensions of the traditional battlefield into the space and cyber-space domains.

Although China's commercial space program has utility for non- military research, that capability demonstrates space launch and control know-how that have direct military application. Even the Chang'e 1 — the Chinese lunar probe now circling the Moon — is flagged in the report as showcasing China's ability "to conduct complicated space maneuvers — a capability which has broad implications for military counterspace operations."

To read the entire publication [29.67MB/pdf], see U.S. Dept of Defense:
http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/pdfs/China_Military_Report_08.pdf
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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
_____________________________________________________

"Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2005/09/war-games-russia-china-grow-alliance

6 posted on 05/18/2012 6:30:31 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: C19fan
Russia’s military spending soars
February, 2011

Russia has revealed details of its ambitious plan to upgrade its army over the next ten years, planning to spend US$650 billion on the project.

­The unveiled large-scale plans of the Russian defense ministry propose the spending of vast sums of money up to 2020.

First and foremost, Russian defense will focus on the development of strategic nuclear weapons, construction of over 100 military vessels for Russian Navy, including construction of four originally French-made Mistral-class amphibious assault ships, and the introduction into the Air Force of over 1,000 helicopters and 600 military planes, including fifth generation PAK-FA fighter.

Most of the military hardware will be equipped with next-generation weaponry.

http://rt.com/news/military-budget-russia-2020/
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China and Russia Launch Military Exercises
April 22nd, 2012 [Lenin's birthday -ETL]

China and Russia launched joint naval exercises Sunday in the Yellow Sea between the east coast of mainland China and the Korean peninsula.

Sixteen Chinese surface vessels and two submarines as well as four Russian warships will take part in the six days of drills. ...

China and Russia have conducted four bilateral and multilateral military exercises since 2005.

http://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-news/2012/04/22/china-and-russia-launch-military-exercises/

7 posted on 05/18/2012 6:31:45 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The last thing they invented was fire crackers they stole the rest.


8 posted on 05/18/2012 6:32:04 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: C19fan
Open Mic Catches Obama Asking Medvedev for Space on Missile Defense
March 26, 2012

"In a private conversation about the planned U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe, President Barack Obama asked outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev for space on the issue.

This is my last election,” Obama told Medvedev. “After my election I have more flexibility.”

“I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” Medvedev said, referring to incoming President Vladimir Putin."

http://fox8.com/2012/03/26/open-mic-catches-obama-asking-medvedev-for-space-on-missile-defense/
__________________________________________________

Obama was talking with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev when neither of them realized that their conversation was being picked up by microphones. Here is what they said:

Obama: “On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved, but it’s important for him to give me space.”

Medvedev: “Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you ...”

Obama: “This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility.”

Medvedev: “I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.”

“This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.” That statement tells us much about the president’s mindset.

The specific mention of missile defense is worrisome enough. Mr. Obama has retreated from the missile defense plan that was negotiated with European allies during the George W. Bush administration. Apparently, he is signaling Moscow that he intends to retreat further. The clear implication from the president’s comments is that he cannot tell the American people before the election what he plans to do after the election.

In addition, there is the phrase “on all these issues,” implying more is at stake than just missile defense.”

Article: Obama plans double cross on missile defense
When it comes to keeping America safe, we shouldn’t be too flexible:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/29/obama-plans-double-cross-on-missile-defense/print/

9 posted on 05/18/2012 6:32:18 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: skeeter
looks alot like an F22 with a canard.

And on radar I'll bet the canards look like a big, bright return.

10 posted on 05/18/2012 6:34:25 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (When we cease to be good we'll cease to be great. Be for Goode.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

It’s still “stealth”, but it’s bigger, carries more weapons and has a longer range than ours.

Would you have been happier with a Xerox of our F-35/F-22?

I’m sure Clinton offered to sell them the plans.


11 posted on 05/18/2012 6:41:48 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: C19fan

12 posted on 05/18/2012 6:45:48 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: Hodar

I’ll be happy when the US faces up to the fact that China considers America an arch enemy.


13 posted on 05/18/2012 6:52:06 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: C19fan

Paid for directly, by “free trade”.

Meanwhile, America’s unemployment rate grows...


14 posted on 05/18/2012 6:55:21 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

And they add so much to the stealth!!!


15 posted on 05/18/2012 7:07:56 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"Canard wings.
Yeah, that’s high tech."

Canards: nigh-impossible to stall. Yeah, that IS high tech.

16 posted on 05/18/2012 7:18:00 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Hodar

Well lets hope they copied our F22 oxygen system too.


17 posted on 05/18/2012 8:05:17 AM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Those canards are going to decrease the stealth of the aircraft, I would think.


18 posted on 05/18/2012 8:13:20 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Hodar
Firefox was a stealth plane. You had to think in a foreign language to get it to fire the missiles and flares :-)


19 posted on 05/18/2012 8:26:10 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Canard wings.
Yeah, that’s high tech.

et al

20 posted on 05/18/2012 10:00:47 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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