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Arizona Secretary of State Threatens to Remove Obama from Ballot
White House Dossier ^ | May 18, 2012 | Keith Koffler

Posted on 05/18/2012 6:33:21 AM PDT by Smokeyblue

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To: Smokeyblue

“One way or the other and it’s done?”

One way he has a real one saying he was born in Hawaii, then it’s done; the other way they have to lie about it and it’s done?


101 posted on 05/18/2012 2:14:26 PM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: kiltie65
Hawaii does not want to be on record confirming Obummer was born there, coz’ they know he was not, and once they put it formally in writing, they know there will be consequences once he’s out of office and there is a reckoning.

This is exactly what I think. I think they believe that his document will be produced some day, and if it is not absolutely conclusive that he was actually born in Hawaii, people will say "Ah HA! You've been intentionally misleading us all this time. You people (Hawaiian DOH) are LIARS!

Also there may be perjury charges, though I think their defense will be "what they did was legal."

I have said this from the beginning. State privacy laws cannot be allowed to trump a REQUIREMENT of Constitutional LAW! One would think that we wouldn't have to create a Federal law just to cover this obvious principle.

102 posted on 05/18/2012 2:46:24 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Ladysforest

An article from the LA Times says that the HDOH told Bennett he had to prove that he’s authorized to ask for that record. So they’re giving him the runaround rather than denying that they got the request.

They’re going to try to say that unless the law specifically says he can write D-E-A-R-D-O-H, he can’t do it.

What the HDOH hasn’t considered is that Bennett is authorized to ask for whatever he needs in order to be comfortable putting the candidate on the ballot. If they don’t want to show him what he needs, then fine. He’ll just keep Obama off the ballot, and Obama himself will have to try to get Fuddy to pull her finger out of her rear end and actually do her job once. (Though Obama would never want Fuddy to REALLY do her job.)

This time Bennett has said the default is for the name to be LEFT OFF. They can stall all they want, but it’s only going to insure that Obama doesn’t appear on the ballot.


103 posted on 05/18/2012 4:42:20 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

If Obama’s name is left off the ballot, do you think the DNC will appeal in court or does Bennett have the last word?


104 posted on 05/18/2012 4:58:31 PM PDT by goldi
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To: goldi

I think they could appeal it in court, but I think they’d be hard-pressed to find anything in the law that would deny Bennett’s discretion to deny him placement on the ballot.

He’s drawn the line in the sand; if they want Obama on the ballot now is the time they should be acting.

Trouble for Obama is that Hawaii CAN’T verify any of Obama’s birth facts, because Obama’s BC is amended and most probably also late. They had to alter their birth index to get Obama’s name on the list, so his name must not be in the list of legally-valid records.

The best Obama can hope for LEGALLY, given this situation, is that he present his records to a judicial or administrative person or body and that person/body examines everything and finds it to be legally probative. He obviously doesn’t want to take his chances with that - and for good reason, since even HI Gov Neil Abercrombie (one who had previously claimed to have seen Obama with his parents shortly after his birth but later privately told Mike Evans that he first saw Obama in HI at tee-ball age) told a Star-Advertiser columnist that what they have for him in Hawaii is not going to convince any skeptics.


105 posted on 05/18/2012 5:10:11 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Brown Deer

Thanks for all the Pings.

You’ve been quite busy today!


106 posted on 05/18/2012 5:36:40 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: butterdezillion

What a mess. I’d love to be a fly on the wall in the presidential living quarters. I think he is well and truly screwed.


107 posted on 05/18/2012 6:03:33 PM PDT by goldi
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To: Smokeyblue

obumpa


108 posted on 05/18/2012 6:11:21 PM PDT by Dajjal ("I'm not concerned about the very poor." -- severely conservative Mitt 'Etch-A-Sketch' Rmoney)
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To: Smokeyblue

“Despite overwhelming evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii”

What a joker.


109 posted on 05/18/2012 6:14:56 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Smokeyblue

Well, this is fun and I’m glad it’s getting some publicity but basically nothing is gonna come of it unless the main stream media takes it seriously,

and,

we know they won’t.


110 posted on 05/18/2012 6:29:16 PM PDT by altura
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To: seton89

Please tell me when the United States added a couple of extras...the last time I checked, and correct me if i am wrong, but we only have 50 states. If you are going to argue a point...make sure you have your facts straight.


111 posted on 05/19/2012 1:44:27 AM PDT by kelleroriley
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To: kelleroriley; seton89
Welcome to FR.

"Please tell me when the United States added a couple of extras...the last time I checked, and correct me if i am wrong, but we only have 50 states. If you are going to argue a point...make sure you have your facts straight."

It was sarcasm and seton89 was referring to this.

If you are going to try to get on the case of a FReeper who's been at this just a little bit longer than yourself, make sure you have your facts and/or understanding straight.

Hm?

112 posted on 05/19/2012 2:31:31 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: FreeAtlanta

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf


113 posted on 05/19/2012 5:11:07 AM PDT by seton89 (Pecunia in arboribus non crescit.)
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To: ASA Vet

“The Diversion Continues.

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House Obama is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.”
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True, but it DOES NOT HURT to attack the enemy on multiple fronts and do as much damage to him as possible pending final victory. We should be careful so as to not belittle those allies who are attacking at a front which we don’t think is THE critical front.


114 posted on 05/19/2012 7:52:32 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Smokeyblue
Zippy was not born in the U.S. and he cannot prove he was. His citizenship is no longer in doubt.

This is great. Obama can't let that "original" BC out, because the circumstances of his birth are contrary to U.S. constitutional requirements for eligibility to the office.

I'm glad they're making an effort on this at last. Hawaii should have stuck to their guns in 2008, but they let Obama and Nancy Pelosi intimidate them. They made the mistake of holding a confidential, off-the-record hearing concerning Obama's eligiblity in October, 2008. It should have been public, with everyone from Fleet Street to the Asian Wall Street Journal invited to cover it.

In a closed meeting, Obama could say "whatever it took" to get Hawaii to certify him (actually, Nancy Pelosi sent them a letter pretending to "certify" Obama, which the DNC cannot do; that's Hawaii's job). Plenty of cover for nasty, ominous innuendo and such.

115 posted on 05/19/2012 2:01:31 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: altura
we know they won’t.

They can't. They've gratuitously lashed themselves to the mast with the Good Ship Obozo because they realize it's their last chance to "win history"; the facts are catching up with socialist fascism, Euro-sytle.

They're going down with the ship and there's nothing they can do. Rejoice, brother; they are truly doomed. Doomed!

116 posted on 05/19/2012 6:16:58 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus; altura

LG, I like your “lashed to the mast” picture.

The MSM will be dragged into this willy nilly. (origin: will he, nil he).

If there was a 9.5 earthquake in DC, the MSM would have to cover it, whether they wanted to or not.

Similarly....


117 posted on 05/19/2012 6:42:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: seton89
It is cute that they put out that release, and then Obama's office puts out it's own modified version of whatever was provided to them.

Why not allow the press to go to the Hawaii vault and see the original documents? What is Obama and Abocrombie hiding?

Why is this so hard for them?

118 posted on 05/19/2012 7:44:06 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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