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Argentina: Black Market Grows With Currency
ABC News ^ | May 19, 2012 (AP) | By DEBORA REY

Posted on 05/20/2012 12:35:26 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

Along a busy street in the Argentine capital, the man in the brown suit doesn't need to speak above a whisper to sell his goods: "Money change. Money change." Those who want to swap pesos for dollars follow him through a run-down mall to a lingerie store. There, amid bras and pantyhose, he closes deals for greenbacks.

Argentines have increasingly turned to such black market money changers since President Cristina Fernandez sharply restricted purchases of dollars in banks and exchange houses to try to keep hard currency from pouring out of the country.

Argentina has been kept from global capital markets since defaulting on its debt during a financial crisis a decade ago, so Fernandez's government wants to keep dollars in the country to replenish central bank reserves and pay government debts. Argentines, meanwhile, are haunted by nightmares of the crisis, when banks froze deposits and the currency lost value. So they are eager for dollars to stash in vaults or under their mattress. Others send them abroad for safekeeping.

Many economists say the new black market spawned by currency controls could choke back Argentina's economic growth and create even more inflation: Controls make it harder for people to do business and undermine confidence in the peso, causing it to devalue even more quickly. That can create the threat of shortages when people are unwilling to sell goods for a currency they do not trust. The curbs could also encourage Argentines to withdraw dollars from banks.

Under the controls imposed shortly after Fernandez won re-election in October, the country's tax agency, known as the AFIP, must approve all purchases of dollars. The formal exchange rate was 4.47 pesos per dollar on Friday, a slide of about 8.6 percent from where the peso was a year ago.

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To: DeaconBenjamin

Argentina has been touted as a socialist success story ... by socialists of course. Argentina is going down the socialist toilet just like Europe.


21 posted on 05/20/2012 3:27:41 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

See our future. Bipartisan favored constituents receive money from their debt regime, have indirect regulatory control over their neighbors and continue to steal all that they can from them through regulations, false accusations and other politically correct tactics. That should heat things up nicely for the collapse.

Most politicos aren’t the producers that they claim to be. They’re socialists, from government employees, to contractors, to services, riding a debt wave while being watched closely by the currently silent, private sector masses. That’s why they fantasize so much about killing “zombies” (those who would really produce, were it not for the regulations and other thefts of the NIMBYs).

Me? I’ll keep working, building and being poor (but healthy, hopefully, and certainly happy) in the middle of nowhere, having already had enough excitement for a lifetime. Peace and quiet.


22 posted on 05/20/2012 3:33:29 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Uncle Slayton
They should just adopt the US dollar as their official currency.

I wish that were true, but they'd be no better off if they don't fix their fiscal and regulatory mess. Argentina found that out about a decade ago.

Until gold is accepted as the universal standard, countries will have to go it on their own with their fake, fiat currencies.

23 posted on 05/20/2012 3:53:13 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Rapscallion

Why coins instead of bills?

They are mostly copper, maybe about 10 cents worth and nobody wants them.


24 posted on 05/20/2012 4:01:38 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: Kenny500c

When currency is devalued “old peso’s” for “NEW Peso’s” (for example) the paper money is typically recalled and exchanged but the coinage , because there is actual expense to creating it (far more than paper) and because there is typically so little of it in circulation it is usually left in circulation.


25 posted on 05/20/2012 4:14:10 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: grumpygresh

Maybe more people need to watch Goldfinger and learn about his Rolls Royce.


26 posted on 05/20/2012 4:25:46 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

It’s the economy - everywhere? Does it ever dawn on the reporters that it is socialism that is causing all this trauma?


27 posted on 05/20/2012 4:50:52 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Argentina is on th edge of being totally Orwellian/Ayn Randian


28 posted on 05/20/2012 4:53:29 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Excellent post and spot on. I wish I’d read it before I posted. You said it better.


29 posted on 05/20/2012 4:54:24 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
For some reason, socialists have “pattern agnosia”, lack of pattern recognition, in which they are unable to recognize that their means to ends do not result in those ends, no matter how hard or repetitively they try.

Sort of like the G8 summit pledging more spending to spur their economies?

30 posted on 05/20/2012 4:55:20 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Reaganez

Over a century ago Argentina was competitive with the US. This is the war over what is seen and what is unseen. Sadly, the consequences of policy choices which lead to the current US domination of 25% of the world’s economy v. Argentina’s fiscal mess are “unseen” by the liberal monsters who wish to eat our society to death.


31 posted on 05/20/2012 4:57:22 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Others will insist that the desired ends have been achieved, despite all evidence to the contrary, to the point of sounding delusional.

Yep. AKA cognitive dissonance.

Good post. It's going onto a gimmick t-shirt tomorrow.

32 posted on 05/20/2012 4:57:56 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: 1010RD

It would never occur to these reporters that it is caused by socialist policies because they don’t think that could be possible. “JournOlisters” are true believers.


33 posted on 05/20/2012 4:59:56 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

“Argentina has been touted as a socialist success story ... by socialists of course. Argentina is going down the socialist toilet just like Europe.”

Actually, Argentina is farther along that road than Europe. If the Europeans want to see their future, they only need to look at Argentina. Sad-the days when “as rich as an Argentinean” and the “peso de oro” are well and truly gone.


34 posted on 05/20/2012 5:17:12 PM PDT by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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To: no-s; yefragetuwrabrumuy

For example, May 2011, keep in mind the Unemployment Number is down because there are less available jobs;

Goolsbee isn’t the only one saying more than 2 million private sector jobs added in the last 14 months;

May. 6, 2011
http://www.indystar.com/article/20110506/NEWS/110506010/Obama-want-energy-breakthroughs-Indiana?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|IndyStar.com
“That means over the last 14 months,” Obama said, “we’ve added more than 2 million jobs in the private sector.”

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/business/news/article_1637565.php/Hiring-picks-up-but-US-jobless-rate-up-to-9-per-cent
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney pointed out to reporters that April was the 14th consecutive month of growth in private sector employment, for a total of 2.1 million jobs


35 posted on 05/20/2012 5:36:21 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: GeronL

Reminded of Democrat EconOmist...Christina Romer, Paul Krugman, Jared Bernstein, Tim Geithner, Larry Summers, Dr. Mark Zandi, Dr. Alan Blinder, Bob Kuttner, Heather Boushey, Bill Hambrecht, Allen Sinai...


36 posted on 05/20/2012 5:39:53 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Son House

bump

libs are libs


37 posted on 05/20/2012 5:42:19 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: BfloGuy; Uncle Slayton

Ecuador still uses the US dollar; no mas Sucres(?).


38 posted on 05/20/2012 5:44:24 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Neidermeyer

One of those countries (it may have been Uruguay) changed their coins as well; the new ones had a dollar sign with “N” in front of it.


39 posted on 05/20/2012 5:47:10 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Rapscallion

“I tried to buy 500 ordinary One-dollar us coins friday at my credit union.”

Just drop by your local gun store and buy a box of 50 9MM a week. They’ll be wroth more in the long run. :)


40 posted on 05/20/2012 6:28:57 PM PDT by dljordan ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.")
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