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To: kabar
As an aside, do you believe that immigrants from Africa should receive special benefits due to their race, e.g., affirmative action, minority business set asides, etc.?

Why would we want something we don't need? I was managing an $8 billion portfolio at the age of 22/23 ...why would I need special 'assistance?' Most of my friends, even the ones who had to work two jobs - one at a nursing home and the other at a 7-11 - never applied for 'help.' In Africa you help yourself or you are on the street. Why would you ask me whether Africans should receive special benefits due to their race? The very fact that they made it to America, when so many others would have wanted to do so, is all the blessing they require ...from there on it is up to their sweat and will.

I am really not trying to sound brusque or what-not, it is just that I find the question ...well ...alien. Again, I think people tend to confuse us with your local grown product just because we look like them. Trust me ...there is no love lost at all between us and the local grown product. There is a nickname used ....'akata.' Google it. It had an ok meaning originally, but it took on a new meaning.

To be honest with you, when I was in the US I detested affirmative action. Why? Because it meant that my accomplishments would always be viewed by some as the result of some sort of quota, when the truth was I literally worked twice as hard as the next guy.

14 posted on 05/22/2012 8:08:00 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz
Why would we want something we don't need? I was managing an $8 billion portfolio at the age of 22/23 ...why would I need special 'assistance?'

This isn't just about you. These policies are on the books. They apply just as much to you as they do to an immigrant from Haitii or Mexico or China. Don't you think that they should be abolished period? Here is an example:

The Virginia Department of Minority Business defines a minority individual as “an individual who is a citizen of the United States or a non-citizen who is in full compliance with United States immigration law and who satisfies one or more of the following definitions:”

1. “African American” means a person having origins in any of the original peoples of Africa and who is regarded as such by the community of which this person claims to be a part.

2. “Asian American” means a person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, the Indian subcontinent, or the Pacific Islands, including but not limited to Japan, China, Vietnam, Samoa, Laos, Cambodia, Taiwan, Northern Mariana, the Philippines, a U.S. territory of the Pacific, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, or Sri Lanka and who is regarded as such by the community of which this person claims to be a part.

3. “Hispanic American” means a person having origins in any of the Spanish-speaking peoples of Mexico, South or Central America, or the Caribbean Islands or other Spanish or Portuguese cultures and who is regarded as such by the community of which this person claims to be a part."

I know a number of African and Carribean immigrants. You are correct that they don't identify with our native born black population. They don't see themselves as victims and want to achieve success through hard work and education. As a result, they are far more successful.

By and large, their children and grandchildren will not have that same ethos mainly due our educational system that will brainwash them into our culture of dependence and diversity. They will identify more as members of racial and ethnic minorities than as Americans.

The bottom line on immigration is that we are bringing in too many people and we don't have a merit based system. We don't need to import hundreds of thousands of high school dropouts annualy.

16 posted on 05/22/2012 8:24:53 AM PDT by kabar
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