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To: betty boop; xzins; hedgetrimmer; Agamemnon; SoConPubbie; P-Marlowe; napscoordinator; Alamo-Girl; ...
And what are your presuppositions? They seem to be: Mitt Romney is an evil, depraved man; a congenital liar; a wolf in sheep's clothing, someone who wants to destroy the American Republic and its capitalist system, and by guile and deception to integrate the United States into a new globalist political order run by some nefarious internationalist cabal.

LOL!

I hate to say it but your presuppositions about our presuppositions are neither rational nor logical.

Romney is not evil per se. Nor is he out to Destroy the American Republic. He has proven himself to be if not a "congenital liar" certainly he is a serial liar. He is not out to destroy the capitalist system, however his version of capitalism is more of a socialist corporatism that has basically become the standard working model of today's American capitalism; a synergism of socialism and capitalism working together for the good of the political establishment.

As for the allegation that we think that Romney is trying to "integrate the United States into a new globalist political order run by some nefarious internationalist cabal," there is no secret that this has been the goal of the globalists for the last several decades and those globalists include not only Democrats like Obama, but also Republicans like the two last Bush Presidents. FWIW there are very few, if any, wholly American corporations that trade on the NYSE. Most of the companies traded on the stock exchanges have no loyalty to the United States whatsoever and with their political influences through donations and perks to political officials, there is nothing American about the capitalist system we now have in place. Prior to WWII most American corporations were loyal to the United States and to United States interests. They joined together with all Americans to defeat our common enemies. These days most American Corporations join with the Chinese and Arabs and other big investors and view patriotic Americans as more or less their common enemy.

But none of your reasons is why I cannot vote for Romney.

I made a pact long ago never to support any candidate who was "pro-abortion."

Romney has a proven record as a pro-abortion politician and governor. He has no track record whatsoever of being pro-life. He and his wife have sent their hard earned money to Planned Parenthood and Romney signed into law a taxpayer funded abortion provision into his socialist health care law.

If he were a proven conservative on all other issues, that one is the killer for me. I won't vote FOR him. I will vote for the pro-life candidate. Romney has no legitimate track record as a public servant who voted conservative or who supported pro-life candidates, judges or legislation.

Betty if you can vote for him because you "hope" he will be a conservative, then you can go ahead and vote for him. But Romney is not now nor has he ever been a conservative. He is a knee jerk liberal and when push comes to shove, his knees will jerk.

102 posted on 05/29/2012 8:22:24 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: P-Marlowe; betty boop; cripplecreek; cva66snipe; Elvina; greyfoxx39; Hilda; ImpBill; kabar; ...
He is not out to destroy the capitalist system, however his version of capitalism is more of a socialist corporatism that has basically become the standard working model of today's American capitalism; a synergism of socialism and capitalism working together for the good of the political establishment.

That is a great line, PM. It is a wonderfully concise explanation of social corporatism...and right on the money about the how the elites think they really are elite and that they really should run things.

In my heart of hearts, I do believe they think of themselves as a new aristocracy (we know the Kennedy's have believed this for generations), and I do think they are fine with a "free market" so long as "the cronies" get to "run it" as the heads of government, corporations, and institutions.

The only real difference between aristocracy and the various forms of socialism is who gets to be "the elite".

The next thing you know they'll be inter-marrying. (Oh wait a minute....:-)

105 posted on 05/29/2012 8:40:07 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of Our Troops Pray they Win every Fight!)
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To: P-Marlowe; Agamemnon; Alamo-Girl
I made a pact long ago never to support any candidate who was "pro-abortion."

Then you must vote your conscience — as it is your sacred privilege to do.

I will absolutely do the same, and vote for Romney. That doesn't mean I'm "pro-abortion," by the way....

Agamemnon is right to point out that the two men standing for election (reelection) as president could not be where they are against God's Will. Effectively, we are given a choice of only these two candidates. I accept what I cannot change, and try to work through to the most good possible under the current conditions.

114 posted on 05/29/2012 9:50:58 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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