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So of course I do not consider him “dangerous.” What we have in the Oval Office now IS dangerous. Terribly, fearsomely dangerous. And I worry that, thanks to people like you, that man will be re-elected to a second term as President of the United States.

FWIW, people like me are called principled conservatives.

I wrote a lengthy reply that was eaten by the server troll that was bothering FR yesterday. If it shows up in the future, then you'll find it enjoyable.

I don't see how anyone can find Romney to be anything but a liberal. Proof: within the last month he came out in support of “gay adoption by gay couples”. He slightly back-pedaled when he decided states could violate nature and force this cultural debilitator on us but not the fed.

What kind of “gay couple” would be “adopting” kids, Sister Betty? How is that not entirely a violation of nature, an affront to Nature's God, and a sign of great confusion? He might have tried a two-step with the "gay adoption" back-pedal, but he let "gay couple" remain without correction.

What is a "gay couple"?

FWIW, people like me are called principled conservatives.

So what does that make me — chopped liver? Just because I disagree with you? And am entirely content to just agree to disagree in good faith, thus holding you harmless?

However I may appear to you, dear brother in Christ, I understand myself to be a "right-wing" political conservative — times three: Social, Economic, and Constitutional, right down to the very ground I stand on. Conservatism under God harmonizes these three disparate yet necessarily connected "realms" of human experience. Or at least, that is my understanding: The divine Logos — the Word of God "in the Beginning" — not only constitutes the order and structure if the Natural World (God's Creation), but the order and structure of unique human souls, with all the public and social consequences flowing therefrom.

You ask a question like this:

What is a "gay couple"?

How do you expect me to answer a question like that — from experience, or by "scriptural rote?" The two accounts would probably differ. [I have very close experience. I do not want to get into it here. So please don't ask.]

If I lived in a world that had "killed God," I would take a very dim view of things indeed. I suspect that the people who want to do this sort of thing are only trying to seek relief from their own human nature in an act of rebellion against not only divine (eternal), but natural (temporal) Truth. — both of which I insist from everything that I know is God-given, and for God's reason (Purpose)....

What such folks seem to be trying to get rid of is any possible criterion of universal Truth (and all its implications in the divine economy: Justice; Mercy; Beauty; Love). It appears such folk live in a constant state of anxiety. They have a knack for denying human nature as a "given"; they prefer to see human nature and "its problems" as a "product of evolution".... Which is fundamentally understood as "progressive." Meaning: "Better than now — for ME."

And to hedgetrimmer, all I want to do is to remind him of what I've said before: The arguments I'm hearing from "your side" do tend to dispense with context.

I won't belabor details. Let me sketch a scenario instead: The context being avoided here is any concept of what Massachusetts is as a political milieu. The first thing outsiders need to know is that Massachusetts is a machine state. Frustrated voters here have a penchant for electing Republican governors from time to time (recently, Bill Weld and Mitt Romney). But it seems that, other than a period of good governance and good stewardship of the Commonwealth's resources, it is not apparent that either man accomplished much to move Massachusetts to the political Right. There are institutional reasons for this, which I will not bother you with right now.

I suspect, had Romney been, say, the Governor of South Carolina instead of the Governor of Massachusetts — both of whom must "accountably" respond to the people who gave him his job as governor, while reaching out to the rest so to establish a governing "social consensus"; a man who, in such an undertaking, is sworn to his duty by his Oath of Office — then we wouldn't now be complaining about his so-called nefarious "public policies."

unless....

But must conclude for now. Just one thing to add:

I suspect I am more of a political realist than some of my friends here. Which makes me "sympatico" with the idea of "politics as the art of the possible", not the politics of the "Ideal" in any way, shape or form.

The Kingdom will come in God's time, and only then. Not even the Son knows the time....

Must run for now. Thank you ever so much, dear brother in Christ, for your enlightening essay/post!

What is a "gay couple"?

Uh...

Future brimstone smellers?

Genesis 13:13

Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Ain't this just FABULOUS?? More?

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...