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Special Report: Mexico's Zetas rewrite drug war in blood
Reuters ^ | 5/23/12 | Ioan Grillo

Posted on 05/23/2012 6:53:42 AM PDT by ruralvoter

Mexican government forces had bottled up a band of enemy fighters in this tiny village late last year, but feared they would escape into the dusty, rock-strewn hills. So more than 600 soldiers and federal police closed in from all directions with armored Humvees and helicopters.

The outlaws responded with a barrage of rocket-propelled grenades and AK-47 assault-rifle fire, tearing apart one federal police vehicle. For three days the fighting raged.

In the end, according to military accounts of the battle, 22 members of the Zetas drug cartel, two police officers and a soldier were dead, and 20 Zetas were in custody. Dozens more escaped to fight another day.

The battle could have been a scene from the war in Afghanistan, but it erupted just 45 miles south of the Texas border

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cocaine; drug; meth; mexico
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To: freedumb2003

I would be in favor of legalizing drugs if:

1. Employers have the right to drug test...just because you do drugs, doesn’t mean you have the right to work.

2. Drug testing for welfare recipients, and denial of benefits for users...You want to partake, I am not going to pay for it.

Now I agree, if you do that, then you could legalize drugs and the number of users would fall.....but of course, you’ll never get them to pass 1 and 2.


21 posted on 05/23/2012 8:22:26 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

So do you think the Tenth Amendment should be honored and let the states regulate intrastate drug policies?


22 posted on 05/23/2012 8:26:30 AM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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23 posted on 05/23/2012 8:38:20 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: WakeUpAndVote
sorry sorry sorry
24 posted on 05/23/2012 8:40:42 AM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

As dave would say , Yup.

They always get the Peons and let the big money boys go.


25 posted on 05/23/2012 8:54:48 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: dfwgator
2. If you cut off welfare for drug addicts, expect a crime wave, the likes you've never seen before.

Honestly, that would be a short term problem in areas that are not havens for anti-2nd Amendment zealots.

26 posted on 05/23/2012 8:56:41 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: raygunfan
>"wtf is wrong with people?"

Prohibition worked out pretty good. ...... for Al Capone.

It also brought us the wonderful Kennedy legacy.

On the positive side it did bring us NASCAR.


It all boils down to, are you FREE to do to yourself as you wish?

Either you're FREE or you are a PRISONER.

To deny some one else their FREEDOM, makes you a jailer, or SLAVER.

27 posted on 05/23/2012 9:02:52 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: dfwgator

Anyone who wants drugs can get them. Just go to your local high school.

If drugs were legalized, drugs could be heavily taxed, so that the legal price would equal the current street price.

Gang violence would drop dramatically, and drug-related law enforcement spending would vanish.


28 posted on 05/23/2012 9:18:52 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (hViva Christo Rey!)
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To: rawcatslyentist

I have been reading the comments with some interest. In this land of the FREE and the home of the brave prior to about 1935 one could walk into you neighborhood drug store and buy cocaine and morphine (think Coca-Cola). Coca-cola was called it because it had coke in it. The country ran fine when a free person could buy what they wanted to.

Lets have a little rationality and a little less party line. The drug industry in the US is the 2nd or 3rd largest business. Consequently, you know that the senators, reps, judges, cops, federal agents, federal justice officials, and some military are all on the take. No large drug dealers get prosecuted. Watch the case and they all are small fish.


29 posted on 05/23/2012 9:19:52 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: Ken H

it was sarcasm ken, come on......fed or local feeding drugs to their citizenry is a ridiculous idea....


30 posted on 05/23/2012 9:27:09 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: ruralvoter; Travis McGee; ATLDiver

Besides the “generate anti-2A sentiment” angle on Fast & Furious, I think it was very likely a way to help arm a favored drug cartel.


31 posted on 05/23/2012 9:30:53 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: tumblindice

Uncle!


32 posted on 05/23/2012 9:32:16 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (hViva Christo Rey!)
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To: rawcatslyentist

fine if you want to be ‘free’ to get trashed, i shouldnt have to pay for it.....when your ‘freedom’ to get trashed causes bodily harm to your or someome else, cause you are trashed government supplied drugs, or property damage as a result of you exercising your freedome, that then interferes with my freedoms to avoid such occurences, and that is where i draw the line....


33 posted on 05/23/2012 9:32:36 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: raygunfan

Perhaps my sarca-meter is on the fritz. Just so I’m clear, are you for the states regulating intrastate drug policy under authority of the Tenth Amendment rather than fedgov?


34 posted on 05/23/2012 9:32:50 AM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Ken H

Ken, im all for the tenth amendment, however, the government shouldnt be involved in dispensing recreational drugs of any kind, it is morally reprehensible to me.


35 posted on 05/23/2012 9:36:13 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: raygunfan
Ken, im all for the tenth amendment,

So are you for the feds staying out, even if a state decide to legalize... YES or NO?


36 posted on 05/23/2012 9:44:37 AM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: dfwgator
Then name your poison:

Your premise is false. Anyone who wants drugs can already get them. In most high schools, it's easier to get pot than beer. Legalization will not increase the number of hard-core druggies. It might increase casual usage a little, but who really cares about that, except drug warriors making a buck off the status quo?

37 posted on 05/23/2012 9:53:51 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: raygunfan
Do you have ANY IDEA what the govt has taken from our citizens for their WOD?

Apparently you don't.

Go pay your govt health care before someone turns your argument back on you.

38 posted on 05/23/2012 9:53:55 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: freedumb2003
We lost the war — let’s stop throwing good money after bad.

The war is not "lost". Do you think the intention of the war was to stop drug use? That is pretty funny. The intent of the war was to increase the power and scope of government. It is working out just fine for the statists in both parties.

39 posted on 05/23/2012 9:58:35 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Well, if a thread is going to get hijacked, I can’t think of a better way for it to happen.


40 posted on 05/23/2012 10:01:50 AM PDT by houeto (FReepathon 2Q! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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