Sheriff Joe: 'I'm not going to call it quits'

wnd ^ | May 23, 2012 | Corsi

[Red Steel]

Sheriff Joe Arpaio says the decision by Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett to place Barack Obama’s name on the state’s presidential ballot won’t put an end to the investigation

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“No, I’m not going to call it quits,” Arpaio told WND.

“I’m not calling my Cold Case Posse investigators home from Hawaii, and I don’t plan to end my investigation prematurely.”

...Bennett said last night that he finally received information that proves Obama’s American birth and satisfies Arizona’s requirements for having the president on the ballot, reported azcentral.com

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“As with any investigation undertaken by my office, it is my responsibility to the residents of Maricopa County to investigate until I discover the truth, regardless how intensely political pressure is applied to me by the White House and now by the Arizona secretary of state,” Arpaio told WND late last night.

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Zullo said the possibility remained that Arpaio’s law enforcement investigation will conclude Obama’s birth certificate and Selective Service registration form are fraudulent – a result that would pit the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office against the Arizona state government. The posse announced March 1 probable cause exists that the documents were forged.

“In my meetings with Mr. Bennett on behalf of Sheriff Arpaio, he was uninterested in reviewing the evidence the Cold Case Posse has accumulated,” Zullo said, characterizing Bennett’s late-night announcement as a “desperate rush to judgment” after weeks of negotiation to get Hawaii to provide the assurances he required.

“Evidently Hawaii has had a change of heart,” Zullo said. “I’m now happy to return once again to the Hawaii Department in Health to repeat our request that Hawaii release whatever birth records may yet remain concealed in the Hawaii Department of Health vaults to public examination by a court-certified group of forensic examiners.”

[Kenny Bunk]

Hawaii seal: Do you know if the copy of Obama's long form birth certificate that Hawaii gave to Obama in April 2011 was stamped wth the official Hawaii seal?

I do not know.
What the WH released was not what they actually received from HI, which was not a document but a digital record of "data on file." The WH created what they released by copying and combining those files. Others on this site suggest that the "Seal" was lifted from another document. I have no idea.

....unless the forgery was created in Washington and then secretly sent to Hawaii to be placed in Obama's Hawaii files.

Well, that might certainly certainly the easiest explanation and makes a great deal of sense.... to me, anyway ... because I have long thought there is no standard Long Form Birth Certificate, probably just the handwritten form witnessing a home birth.

We are in the unenviable position of knowing what the WH and Team Obama tell us is most probably NOT true. That, however, gives us no clue as to what the truth is, which is the way Team Obama wants it. Furthermore, by now, there are at least 10 explanations ... 10 different stories ... on every anomaly in the man's background. So, at the end of the day, we still have no idea who, or what, the guy is, or where he was born. Not good. Not good for the country to have all of this swirling about the Presidency.

[little jeremiah]

Sheriff Arpaio has said he knows on what computer the document was before it was emailed to the WH. He said he knows name/s in this connection.

[Kenny Bunk]

LJ, there is no doubt that Sheriff Joe has the goods.

The problem now is, where does he go with them? Will he sue Bennett to remove Obama from the ballot? Who will hear the case ... and does he have a case? Will he charge Obama with a crime? What?

So far, the arguments are all dressed up ... but have no place to go.

[little jeremiah]

IMHO nothing will really happen until 0mugabe and his string pullers cross a line. What line, I don’t know - something akin to the Redcoats marching to get the arms stash in Lexington (I think I have that right!).

Then things will happen, and most likely involve Sheriffs, perhaps mil, and a lot of regular people.

AFAIAC, the vast majority of R elites which includes elected Rs are scum. We will see which ones are not by how they act once that line is crossed. I am reasonably certain a line will be crossed.

[Fred Nerks]

No date of birth? No names of parents?

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2887172/posts?page=85#85

is this the image you were asking for? Google had it.

[butterdezillion]

I just noticed something else. These are the additional items that Bennett asked to be verified from the birth record:

Enclosed please find a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II. In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form, please verify the following items from the record of birth:

Department of Health File #151 61 10641
Time of birth: 7:24 p.m.
Name of hospital: Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital
Age of father: 25
Birthplace of Father: Kenya, East Africa
Age of mother: 18
Birthplace of mother: Wichita, Kansas
Date of signature of parent: 8-7-1961
Date of signature of attendant: 8-8-1961
Date accepted by local registrar: August-8 1961

That’s 10 items from the record of birth for Barack Hussein Obama II. The HDOH has 12 items. The first 2 are different than what Bennett requested. The first says they have a birth certificate on file indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.

The second says “Name of Person: Barack Hussein Obama, II” Why say that, unless to indicate that #2 is the start of a list of items on the record that was verified as existing in #1?

[aruanan]

The second says “Name of Person: Barack Hussein Obama, II” Why say that,

A different way of saying "Jr"?

[butterdezillion]

I mean why even list the name on the document, if items 1-12 were all the requested “verification in lieu of a certified copy” for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II, that Ken Bennett had asked for?

Item #1 already specified that there was a birth record for Barack Hussein Obama, II indicating that he was born in Honolulu, HI. That made clear that this was a verification involving Barack Hussein Obama II.

So why list the name of person? That’s the name of WHAT person?

[butterdezillion]

It’s probably over-parsing, but listing the “Name of person” after already giving the name in item #1 seems like they’re starting a new list, that’s NOT just a continuation of the “verification” that was in #1.

If it was intended to be one solid sheet of “verification in lieu of a certified copy”, there wouldn’t be a need to reiterate who the verification was about. Switching to the “Name of person: Barack Hussein Obama II” format and starting that list with the name (which had already been stated) is a way to separate the first item from all the rest. A new list with a new format started on #2.

And it was never clarified exactly what that list is. With the exception of the “Name of person” to introduce the new list, the items in that list match those requested by Bennett to specifically be verified as FROM THE RECORD. The natural presumption is that these items - starting with “Name of person” even though that was never requested from the record - are all items as they appear on the record.

And the certifying statement at the bottom (which was put there by whoever initialed the document - an unidentified person whose initials can’t even be definitely known) says the record is the source for the verification.

[butterdezillion]

CORRECTION: The certifying statement says that the INFORMATION in the record is the source for the verification. Though #1 refers to the existence of a birth certificate, the (anonymous) certifying statement allows that the “verification” could have come from a computer file, for instance, or from multiple documents such as affidavits.

Which may also be why they started a new list. Items 2-12 may be from the “record” and not from the “birth certificate” mentioned in item #1.

[aruanan]

To me the whole thing looks like this:

1. If there was absolutely nothing untoward or weird or embarrassing or politically inexpedient about any of this, why go through all these machinations in order to keep the originals veiled--if there indeed are any originals to begin with (and all the rest of the etc., with regard to all the rest of the hidden documentation of his alleged past)? Why go through the legal danger of presenting laughable fakes in such a public manner? What does it mean when the penalties for fraud are seen as negligible compared to a full, unredacted release of something that can be verified by forensic experts in documents?

2. If the appearance of trying to cover things up and hide the truth, even to the point of posting fraudulent documents, is preferable to the truth being revealed, is it any wonder that anyone in any chain of command, so to speak, who has the ability to make things known or who is trying to get things revealed should be the recipient of extraordinary pressure to block access or to cease and desist in their efforts by Barry and his top buds? After all, Jeremiah Wright claims Obama tried to pay him, what was it, $150,000, just to keep his mouth shut until the election? And that wasn't to keep his mouth shut about anything he knew about Obama. It was just to shut up and not say any more of what he typically said every Sunday over those twenty years that Obama was a parishioner of a guy he looked up to like a father figure.

The only conclusions I can reach are either 1. Barry has a great need to do anything he can, even at the risk of putting himself in danger legally, just to eff with his opponents' heads or 2. there is something that suffuses his entire past that is of such a grave nature that it threatens his presidency and that he is willing to do anything to make sure that doesn't come out until he has completed what he got into office to do.

[aruanan]

Well, there’s the possibility of 3. Both of the above.

[little jeremiah]

2. there is something that suffuses his entire past that is of such a grave nature that it threatens his presidency and that he is willing to do anything to make sure that doesn’t come out until he has completed what he got into office to do.

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Yes and also number 1. His entire “life” is a lie.

[Fred Nerks]

Actually...what appears strange to me is the place of the comma.

Barack Hussein Obama II is supposed to be the full name. Isn’t it?

And I think everyone knows by now that my impression is that name is on the index because the kenyan and Anna had a child some six months before the famous birthdate, and that’s why Mary said she babysat for Anna.
Anna Obama wasn’t Stanley Ann Dunham as far as I can see and I’m sticking to it.
They can say the mother came from Witchita all they like, but there has to be a reason why they didn’t name her.

[john mirse]

Enclosed please find a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II. In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form, please verify the following items from the record of birth:

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I'm confused by part of the statement above:

"In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form...."

What "items to be verified in the attached form" is Bennett talking about, because I don't see any "attached form" on the internet.

In other words, I would like to see the "attached form" that Bennett is talking about above.

If someone could help me, I would appreciate it.

[thecodont]

That “verification” is missing the DATE of birth, which is a glaring error.

The initials next to Onaka’s rubber-stamped signature, what do they mean?

Some say they’re “gk” but I think they could be “jk” as in “Just Kidding.”

[The_Media_never_lie]

At the very least, why has the media supressed the story of Obama’s bio stating he was born in Kenya and the Connecticut SS#.

[The_Media_never_lie]

At the very least, why has the media supressed the story of Obama’s bio stating he was born in Kenya and the Connecticut SS#.

[The_Media_never_lie]

At the very least, why has the media supressed the story of Obama’s bio stating he was born in Kenya and the Connecticut SS#.