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To: Kenny Bunk
John, The HIDOH DID NOT release a "Certified Copy of Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate," and has never said that it had. The HIDOH admits only to having released a digital copy of "data on file." Team Obama used these various digital files to create something that looked like a Birth Certificate. They did not even bother to create a "document." They released a pdf, that when printed by the various MSM organizations that received it electronically, looked a lot like a Birth Certificate, which of course it is not. Neither is it a "Certified Copy" of anything in particular.

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This is john mirse.

Hawaii seal: Do you know if the copy of Obama's long form birth certificate that Hawaii gave to Obama in April 2011 was stamped wth the official Hawaii seal? Thanks.

SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT: If the Obama long form birth certificate that Hawaii has on file---and the one Hawaii "verified" for Arizona's Bennett---looks exactly like the one President Obama presented on April 27, 2011 to great fanfare at his press conference, and if the copy that President Obama displayed turns out to be a forgery, then I believe that the forgery must have originated in Hawaii and not in Washington,D.C. or the mainland, unless the forgery was created in Washington and then secretly sent to Hawaii to be placed in Obama's Hawaii files.

80 posted on 05/25/2012 7:45:47 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: john mirse
Hawaii seal: Do you know if the copy of Obama's long form birth certificate that Hawaii gave to Obama in April 2011 was stamped wth the official Hawaii seal?

I do not know.
What the WH released was not what they actually received from HI, which was not a document but a digital record of "data on file." The WH created what they released by copying and combining those files. Others on this site suggest that the "Seal" was lifted from another document. I have no idea.

....unless the forgery was created in Washington and then secretly sent to Hawaii to be placed in Obama's Hawaii files.

Well, that might certainly certainly the easiest explanation and makes a great deal of sense.... to me, anyway ... because I have long thought there is no standard Long Form Birth Certificate, probably just the handwritten form witnessing a home birth.

We are in the unenviable position of knowing what the WH and Team Obama tell us is most probably NOT true. That, however, gives us no clue as to what the truth is, which is the way Team Obama wants it. Furthermore, by now, there are at least 10 explanations ... 10 different stories ... on every anomaly in the man's background. So, at the end of the day, we still have no idea who, or what, the guy is, or where he was born. Not good. Not good for the country to have all of this swirling about the Presidency.

81 posted on 05/25/2012 9:04:27 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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Sheriff Arpaio has said he knows on what computer the document was before it was emailed to the WH. He said he knows name/s in this connection.


82 posted on 05/25/2012 9:46:49 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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