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U.S. officials secretly visited N. Korea ahead of rocket launch: report(but burned again)
Mainichi Shimbun ^ | 05/18/12

Posted on 05/23/2012 7:05:42 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

U.S. officials secretly visited N. Korea ahead of rocket launch: report

SEOUL (Kyodo) -- U.S. officials secretly visited North Korea last month days before its April 13 long-range rocket launch in an unsuccessful bid to get Pyongyang to call off the launch, a local news report said Friday.

The officials flew into Pyongyang around 8 a.m. on April 7 and left later the same day, according to Reset KBS, an online broadcasting channel.

The U.S. side and the South Korean government did not notify South Korea's air force of the flight, which passed through South Korean airspace. As a result, South Korea's military air traffic controllers initially had trouble identifying the aircraft but eventually allowed it to pass over to the North, the report said.

North Korea went ahead with the rocket launch on April 13, drawing international criticism for violating U.N. resolutions. The launch ended in failure when the rocket exploded barely a minute into flight.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: icbm; nkorea; obama; rocket

1 posted on 05/23/2012 7:05:53 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The North Koreans are using fake mock-up ballistic missiles at their parades.
2 posted on 05/23/2012 7:15:26 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Local SK media have been reporting that obama failed to notify many involved in NK problem. For example, entire SK government, which naturally includes SK military. They scrambled to find out why U.S. plane is heading north without their knowledge. The plane was not allowed to proceed until the miltary determined that it is legit. There are even reports that State Dept. was not notified, either. That is, they found out after the fact. Speculation started to arise that only a handful of people in Obama gov knew about it. Still in the end, he got screwed again. Some in SK gov. are reportedly irked by this move.

Nice handy work Barry. Not!

From Yonhap News: http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2012/05/23/34/0301000000AEN20120523001800315F.HTML

(2nd LD) U.S. tepid about N. Korea's overture, threats

By Lee Chi-dong

WASHINGTON, May 22 (Yonhap) -- The U.S. government was apparently unenthusiastic Tuesday about North Korea's latest overture, coupled with its typical threats.

"We're going to be guided not by what they say, but what they do," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said at a press briefing.

She was responding to remarks by her North Korean counterpart that the communist nation has no plans to conduct a nuclear test soon and it remains open for a negotiated solution to the nuclear issue.

Pyongyang informed the U.S. several weeks ago that it is "refraining" from provocative actions, according to the unnamed spokesman for Pyongyang's foreign ministry.

The spokesman reiterated that the North will be "left with no option but to take counter-measures for self-defense" if Washington continues to put sanctions and pressure on it.

Nuland said, "Frankly, I'm not sure what they mean by that. ... I'm not sure what they actually had in mind."

She pointed out that the U.S. has lost confidence in North Korea's commitments to denuclearization.

"You know what we've been saying about the Leap Day Agreement, that we no longer have any confidence in any of the commitments that they've made since they've already abrogated the major ones," she said.

Under the Feb. 29 deal, the North pledged to suspend some of its nuclear activity and long-range missile tests. In return, the U.S. agreed to offer food aid.

Nuland neither confirmed nor denied a news report that a senior U.S. government official visited Pyongyang a week before the North's rocket launch in April.

"I'm not commenting on it one way or the other," she said.

A diplomatic source said Joseph DeTrani, the director of the National Counterproliferation Center (NCPC) under the Office of Director of the National Intelligence (DNI), made the secret trip to Pyongyang.

DeTrani served at the DNI as the North Korea Mission Manager, where he was responsible for integrating collection and analysis on North Korea.

He is known to have organized former President Bill Clinton's visit to Pyongyang in August 2009, which led to the release of two female American journalists.

The source said President Barack Obama might have delivered a special message to the North Korean regime through DeTrani, although his mission to dissuade it from firing a long-range rocket ended in failure.

Meanwhile, North Korea is increasing activity at its nuclear test site, the U.S. cable news channel CNN reported, citing analysis of new satellite images by the defense publication IHS Janes.

Mining carts and excavation equipment are seen at Punggye-ri, North Hamgyeong Province, where it detonated a nuclear device in 2006 and 2009, according to satellite images taken by Digital Globe and GeoEye in April, CNN said.

3 posted on 05/23/2012 7:20:22 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...
More interesting discussion at Arms Control Wonk site
4 posted on 05/23/2012 7:24:15 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

TLR, you say in your comment that the South Koreans “scrambled” to find out why the US government (military) plane was heading north without first notifying the SoKo government, did you mean the SoKo gov’t was rapidly, moving with all due haste, etc., via telephone, radio, TWX to find out why the US plane was in their airspace or did you mean the SoKo gov’t immediately sent up (”scrambled”)fighter jets to determine where the jet was headed? You may mean both but I’m curious to know your answer.

Seems to me this action was a diplomatic gaffe of the first order on the part of the US toward a highly involved and interested nation. If the SoKo gov’t didn’t respond by sending up fighters, that would suggest to me a sluggishness of defense posture (perhaps). Likewise, if the US State Dept. was also unaware of the flight and reason for the “visit”, then that also suggests all is not well between the WH and State (not a surprise with Hillary in the top spot).

I certainly can understand why the SoKo gov’t would be “irked” by the amateurish maneuver by the White House.


5 posted on 05/23/2012 9:10:19 PM PDT by miele man
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Typical Obama administration foreign policy practice:

1. Appease an enemy. <

2. Offend an ally.

3. Accomplish nothing.

6 posted on 05/23/2012 9:38:05 PM PDT by okie01
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To: TigerLikesRooster

President Bush has been proven correct in that Iran and North Korea are parts of the axis of evil and if Iraq had been left alone there is a chance that he was right on all 3.


7 posted on 05/23/2012 10:19:43 PM PDT by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: okie01
This should immediately go to the Armed Services, Foreign Affairs and Intelligence committees of the US House of Representatives (to the various GOP majority chairs).

Any body with me to divvy up the work??

8 posted on 05/23/2012 10:32:07 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (The parallels of elected dictator Hugo Chavez & his incremental socialism--to Obama--is creepy!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Wonder if Koehler in his “Marmot’s Hole” blog will carry this as well...


9 posted on 05/23/2012 10:34:39 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (The parallels of elected dictator Hugo Chavez & his incremental socialism--to Obama--is creepy!)
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To: miele man
What I meant is that SK controllers/air defense found out that aU.S. plane is heading north, but they were not notified in advance. They scrambled their warplanes up just in case. In the mean time, the government authorities were notified and they tried to find out what the hell was going on. Inquiries were sent out to local U.S. Embassy or any contacts they have.

Apparently they did finally learn that it was a U.S. plane on a diplomatic mission. However, they got the impression that they were not the only ones in the dark. To them, many U.S. officials who should know(such as State Dept. officials) also looked surprised.

10 posted on 05/23/2012 10:38:42 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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Pyongyang informed the U.S. several weeks ago that it is "refraining" from provocative actions, according to the unnamed spokesman for Pyongyang's foreign ministry.

Until after the election.

11 posted on 05/24/2012 12:05:39 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: lwoodham
President Bush has been proven correct in that Iran and North Korea are parts of the axis of evil and if Iraq had been left alone there is a chance that he was right on all 3.

The he set about rebuilding Iraq, thus blowing the budget to deal with either Iran or the Norks. How UN civilized of him.

12 posted on 05/24/2012 12:08:15 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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When I was a kid, the word “provocative” was used in a commercial describing Granny Goose Potato Chips.

How times have changed.

13 posted on 05/24/2012 12:10:33 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Confucius say, short note better than long memory....)
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How times have changed.

We've "grown up." I thought the litter basket in that commercial was very cool.

14 posted on 05/24/2012 12:14:54 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
How times have changed.

We've "grown up." I thought the litter basket in that commercial was very cool video.

15 posted on 05/24/2012 12:20:47 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Local SK media have been reporting that obama failed to notify many involved in NK problem. For example, entire SK government, which naturally includes SK military. They scrambled to find out why U.S. plane is heading north without their knowledge. The plane was not allowed to proceed until the miltary determined that it is legit. There are even reports that State Dept. was not notified, either. That is, they found out after the fact. Speculation started to arise that only a handful of people in Obama gov knew about it. Still in the end, he got screwed again. Some in SK gov. are reportedly irked by this move.

Maybe he hoped SK would knock it out of the air and we could stop supporting them war mongers so NK could realize its peaceful destiny...

16 posted on 05/24/2012 4:49:13 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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Thank you, TLR, for the good explanation. It is what I expected and suspected I would hear, i.e., the South Koreans were on the ball and on top of things and, as usual, Obama and the White House were not.


17 posted on 05/24/2012 8:37:59 AM PDT by miele man
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To: trebb

I hope your post was made in jest or sarcastically?


18 posted on 05/24/2012 8:40:37 AM PDT by miele man
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To: Kickass Conservative

“You won’t believe this, but my name is Granny Goose.”

We’re old!


19 posted on 05/24/2012 10:07:49 AM PDT by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: miele man
I wrote: Maybe he hoped SK would knock it out of the air and we could stop supporting them war mongers so NK could realize its peaceful destiny...

You replied: I hope your post was made in jest or sarcastically?

More sarcasm than jest, but with Obama you never know. He seems to support evil/terrorist regimes and treats friends/allies with contempt. NOTHING would surprise me. In this particular case, it's probably just a case of egotistic contempt and arrogant stupidity on his part as he failed to let a friendly country know one of our planes would be using its airspace to enter a hostile regime.

20 posted on 05/25/2012 5:35:45 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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