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The unraveling myth of Watergate
Human Events ^ | 5-25-12 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 05/25/2012 4:01:28 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

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To: Durus

Over 2,000 guns, over 300 deaths.


21 posted on 05/25/2012 5:09:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: LS; Travis McGee

I agree that “Silent Coup” made a strong case, and that Dean was mainly interested in protecting his wife Maureen and preventing knowledge of her work in a call-girl ring from coming to light.

re: Your comment on “why it’s so tough to prove”, my take is that you’re battling human nature and you can’t prove anything to most people if it’s frightening or challenges their world view. They simply won’t listen.

I have a copy of “Silent Coup” that Colodny autographed for me “back in the day”. It sits on my bookshelf alongside Terry Reed’s “Compromised” and Jayna Davis’ “The Third Terrorist”. Whenever I feel myself getting a little overly optimistic about “the people” waking up to the lies we’ve been told and the threats we face, I have only to glance at them to jolt me back into my natural state of skeptical cynicism... /g


22 posted on 05/25/2012 5:13:21 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Unfortunately for Nixon, he “inherited” all the American ill will over Vietnam that was directed at LBJ - who was the real architect of the debacle.

Had it not been for that fact, IMO, Watergate would never have caused all the ruckus it did and Nixon could have breezed through it and stayed in office.

The real tragedy for Nixon was that he allowed himself to become LBJ’s whipping boy.


23 posted on 05/25/2012 5:16:25 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’ll never understand “today’s press.” You look back at the Watergate era, and see the reporting that was done, and then look at the accolades that have been heaped onto thosee key news figures since ... they are almost legends ... and you wonder why somebody in the press today doesn’t go after Obama. Talk about a “target rich” subject! You would think the possibility of notoriety, wealth and becoming a legend would cause some bright young report to break ranks with the liberal thinking and go make some real history. Are all of them THAT brain dead today ... surely there is just ONE somewhere?


24 posted on 05/25/2012 5:21:27 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Still a contributing Republican? Why?)
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To: tarheelswamprat; LS

Yep.

The truth is just one version of history, and not the one that is usually accepted as true by the dumb masses.


25 posted on 05/25/2012 5:21:50 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: pepsionice
I sat as a kid...watching the WaterGate hearings. At the end of the whole thing...my take was that a couple of guys broke into the Democratic office there at the WaterGate building, and that was mostly it. To pre-empt TV shows in the afternoon and carry this live across the nation...was silly and ridiculous.

Not silly to the opposition. Their goal was to destroy a Republican president and harm the Republican brand. That's all.

Meanwhile, Murdergate (Fast and Furious) goes ignored and Eric Holder defiantly throws his finger at the public and Congress.

26 posted on 05/25/2012 5:22:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The so-called 'mainstream' media has gone from "biased" straight to "utterly surreal".)
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To: Steely Tom

Silent Coup is a 1992 book written by Len Colodny and Robert Gettlin in which they contend that former Nixon “White House counsel John Dean orchestrated the 1972 Watergate burglary at Democratic National Committee headquarters to protect his future wife, Maureen Biner, by removing information linking her to a call-girl ring that worked for the DNC. The authors also argued that Alexander Haig was not Deep Throat but was a key source for Bob Woodward, who as a Naval officer had briefed Haig at the White House in 1969 and 1970.”
Source Wikipedia
I read the book and that is a good summary. Some of the other comments in the Wikipedia laughable, especially the criticism by WaPOSt. I listened to one very interesting Liddy Radio program long ago when he had as guests the police and private security people who investigated the break-in.
I believe the Silent Coup theory in its entirely.


27 posted on 05/25/2012 5:34:02 AM PDT by BilLies (330,000 northern Union Whites died between 1861-65 to free the slaves. Memorial Day.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Today’s MSM (ABCNNBCBS/NYT/WaPo/LAT etc) is all about protecting Obama.

Great reporting is being done by Jack Cashill, Corsi, etc, but the MSM (American Pravda) blocks it out.

Even Fast And Furious, a DOJ plot that led to over 300 murders.


28 posted on 05/25/2012 5:34:21 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sir Napsalot
“The long term implications are much more lasting - every two-bit ‘reporter’ dreaming of being Woodward. We now have the modern day journalism doctrine (’making’ news to justify the ends) and Dan Rather’s courage.”

You are absolutely correct. With the advent of high-profile TV news anchors, and the celebrity afforded Woodward and Bernstein because of Watergate, journalism became an attractive career choice for those who wanted to ‘be important’, ‘become celebrities’, or to ‘change the world’. In short, it became a nice career niche for narcissists. Add to that the incredibly lopsided ideological leanings of those in the mainstream media, and you have the formula for the disaster that our media has become.

29 posted on 05/25/2012 5:38:13 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Paine in the Neck
Watergate was the left’s revenge against Nixon for his taking out Helen Gahagan Douglas in the 1950 CA senate race along with his other anti-commie work.

Don't forget about Alger Hiss and the pumpkin papers. It was Nixon who brought the case against Hiss. Exposing Communist infiltration of the US government is always a dangerous thing and something the Left will never forget.

BTW I admit I could be wrong about this but didn't Bradlee start a communist newspaper in NH in the late fifties?

30 posted on 05/25/2012 5:41:06 AM PDT by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Russia cheered when Nixon was taken down...the red-diaper baby (Bernstein) and kid who wanted to be cool (Woodward) had led the liberal, SDS generation into doing the will of the USSR.

Jimmy Carter was a dream-come-true for the Soviets in the aftermath of the big political soap opera. Also, a new breed of superficial national news media led by the likes of Dan Rather (the real newspeople wanted to see Roger Mudd take the helm at CBS) would usher in a few decade of crummy reporting.

It has always made me shudder to see Bob Woodward interviewed on shows like Larry King as though he were some kind of elder statesman...ugh. I hope these new books turn the tide on misinformation that has dominated throughout the years.

31 posted on 05/25/2012 5:41:06 AM PDT by what's up
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To: afraidfortherepublic

My mother was glued to the TV during the Watergate hearings. It was the beginning of the MSM ascendancy over America,


32 posted on 05/25/2012 5:43:21 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: carriage_hill

Wow.

It keeps me on my guard knowing those same types are still around...they haven’t been dormant. We are still in a fragile state, I’m afraid.

Thank you for sharing your insights.


33 posted on 05/25/2012 5:58:38 AM PDT by SueRae (The Tower of Sauron falls on 11.06.2012)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Not only that, but these guys illegally accessed phone records to identify their White House targets.

And I believe 3 million southeast Asians lost their lives after the Democrats in Congress refused to support South Vietnam, passing a bill that US servicemen and women could not be deployed in Vietnam. Ford didn’t sign it, but he followed it.

What a waste after we won the war in Vietnam, only to lose the peace.


34 posted on 05/25/2012 6:02:45 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Old Sarge

-—Behold the real Watergate legacy, lost on the Left.-—

I clearly remember the media constantly mocking the “domino theory.” I’m sure the Cambodians are still laughing.

I don’t recall the MSM apology.


35 posted on 05/25/2012 6:08:37 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The Democrats took it on the chin in the 1972 elections. The press went into overtime to save the Democrats. They took a little story and used it to attack the Republicans. I remember a girl in high school asking me to sign a petition calling for Nixon’s impeachment. I asked her what crime Nixon had committed. She didn’t know.


36 posted on 05/25/2012 6:11:16 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: LS

The break-in operations involved the planting of bugs and photographing of documents, and were orchestrated by the intelligence arm of the Committee to Re-elect the President.

Why is it that they had to be after anything in particular, whether material held closely by Lawrence F. O’Brien, dirt on Dean’s fiancee, or information on a kickback scheme involving the Democratic National Convention?

Wouldn’t the bugging and copying of documents be simply to gain any information that would be beneficial to the Campaign to Re-elect the President, whatever they found?


37 posted on 05/25/2012 6:16:55 AM PDT by ngat
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Perhaps a pair of young intrepid reporters or perhaps many of them have already gathered the goods on Obama. It may well have happened or be happening. But it would never be published and these intrepid young reporters would keep their jobs and not be totally socially and professionally destroyed only because they manage to swallow all that information and allow all digital and paper evidence they have collected to be destroyed by government agencies and by the publishers and editors through whom they would have to work.


38 posted on 05/25/2012 6:19:12 AM PDT by arthurus ( Read Henry hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson")
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To: ScubieNuc
As I recall, the failed break in was an attempt to get information on Democrats....I have read between the lines in many articles and books and feel the purpose of the break in was to gather info, in part, on John Kerry's participation of a meeting in which the VNVAW in which they VOTED on assassinating members of Congress.
39 posted on 05/25/2012 6:32:40 AM PDT by Safetgiver
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Redford is now backing a new documentary, "All the President's Men Revisited."

The first movie was highly influential in drawing a huge wave of young leftists into a low paying career in news media. The Watergate scandal was the tipping point which destroyed journalism. But the 35 year old narcissist magnet has lost its pull. The dinosaur media is going bankrupt, so it's time for a re-make.

40 posted on 05/25/2012 6:35:32 AM PDT by Reeses
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