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1 posted on 05/26/2012 7:47:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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"Social conservatism bounces up" 

Hmmm, that must be disappointing news for the "Fithcally Conthervative" Mafia in their RINO Trojan Log-Cabin.

 
GeeOpie: What happens now?
Scott Toomey: Well, now, uh, Ken Mehlman, R. Clarke Cooper, Meghan McCain, Mary Cheney, Myth Womney and I wait until nightfall, and then leap out of the Fithcally Conthervative log cabin, taking The Party(tm) by surprise -- not only by surprise, but totally unarmed!
GeeOpie: Who leaps out?
Scott Toomey: Uh, Ken Mehlman,  R. Clarke Cooper, Meghan McCain, Mary Cheney, Myth Womney and I. Uh, leap out of the log cabin, uh and uh....
GeeOpie: Oh....
Scott Toomey: Oh.... Um, l-look, if we built this large wooden Rhinocerous -- [twong]
ALL:  Run away!  Run away!  Run away!  Run away!
      
[splat]
 

2 posted on 05/26/2012 8:06:48 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sterilized with Tea)
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The key take away should be that from mid 2009 to Nov 2010 the peak of conservatism was driven largely by a strong unified tea party anti-Obamacare message. It shouldn’t be surprising that we saw a dip as the message became less clear and the new GOP let things get muddled and also as the dumb primary that we just went through which only further helped to muddle things. Notice as social issues (gay marriage) and economic issues are coming to the forefront again that total conservatism is on the rise. We gain nothing by allowing our debates to become muted by bipartisanship and not leading with clarity.

The problem with polls is that given the liberal tilt of the popular culture,academic culture,political class and media culture is that it creates a nature suppression of conservatism. Thus you get the I’m a fiscal conservative crap but not a social conservative. However a majority of the same if queried directly on abortion or on details of gay activism would not be supportive at all.

This is why you see such a divergence between polls which ask questions like “Do you believe gay marriage should be illegal” rather than the more accurate question “Do you believe that marriage should be considered to be one man and one woman or do you believe it should be considered two men or two women?” and the actual vote. The press is purposely trying to apply peer pressure on a national scale to get the poll results they wish.

Of course the debate isn’t even if gay marriage should be illegal. No one is trying to make it illegal. All that the law is doing is preventing the federal govt from licensing or treating same sex unions as marriage. Any person can cohabit and even get ‘married’ if they can find a church or organization to do so and many do exist. There is no right that they are being denied except the right to force everyone to treat men and women as if they are not different and as if the world is gender neutral which it is not nor should it be.

These polls are a snapshot of an occupied culture and that so many are identifying as total conservatives is excellent. I don’t like that the % of liberals have up ticked but the ultimate polarization will benefit us in the long run. A more polarized electorate is a more informed engaged politically active electorate. It is also more patriotic and all of that is good if you really want to move America towards the promise of its founding.

I’ve been noticing in the polls that independents are turning against Obama and that independents are more upset about his change on gay marriage. Isn’t that interesting?
I believe conservatism is as a recent study suggests a more natural state. It is the approach someone takes when they are have to make the hard decisions that have no room for naive wishes. This is why the left has to work so hard to control the messaging and apply cultural pressure to suppress the practical nature of man. It is natural to revile killing unborn babies, it is natural to revile men having sex with men, it is natural to revile laziness and parasitism, it is natural to desire to procreate and build families, it is natural to want to keep what you earn and work for. The left has to deconstruct these practical natural positions and brainwash the population which is why they are so very keen on getting the kids young. They require pedophilic access to the brains of the young so to get them to think that what would normally be seen as wholly outrageous ideas to sane adults can be normalized and made to seem common.


3 posted on 05/26/2012 8:28:53 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: SeekAndFind

These polls are worthless

What people call themselves is meaningless

Only poll that matters is on election day and Obama is president


5 posted on 05/26/2012 9:00:12 AM PDT by uncbob
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