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To: xzins; betty boop; Jeff Head; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl; SoConPubbie; cripplecreek; Agamemnon
Because of endorsements, because of VP selections, because of hinted cabinet members, because of potential justices, conservatives should vote to go backward in the hope that they’ll go forward.

That's it in a nutshell. I'm smelling a whole lot of "if" coming off this plan. Basically, the pro-Romney people are trying to sell us on their candidate by asking us to ignore his entire history and record prior to mid-2007, and to just "trust them" that he's not really playing them like a cheap violin.

I'd almost think they were just trying to play some drawn out parody of 1984, what with all the stuff going down the memory hole and all the revision of Romney as the next great paladin of conservatism, except I know that they're serious. That's what sad. They're serious. They're scared, they're not thinking straight, they're letting their emotions get the better of them, and they're serious. They actually believe that electing Romney is going to make much difference versus Obama. Yet - as I've noticed - not a single **** one of them has been able to actually answer any of the points I've made or the questions I've asked. All they can do is yap about "you're just helping to re-elect Obama!" or "you just hate Mormons!" while regaling us with tendentious stories about John Schmitz that serve to replace intelligence with verbosity.

And this is the state of "conservative activism"?

Looks like we need some new conservative activism. The old type is obviously sclerotic.

104 posted on 06/02/2012 5:28:24 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Romney as the next great paladin of conservatism

LOL I saw a thread earlier today where Romney was declared to be the next Ronald Reagan.
106 posted on 06/02/2012 5:33:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

>>They actually believe that electing Romney is going to make much difference versus Obama.<<

Oh for heaven’s sake.

1. Do you know anyone who has the understanding and gained their understanding of Jesus Christ and defend it, and they got that understanding from someone like Jeremiah Wright? Do you know anyone who is a good Christian that believes there is no salvation unless there’s collective salvation?

2. Do you know somebody who is raised and/or mentored by communists?

3. Do you have friends or acquaintances that are Marxists, Communists, or have been actively engaged in the overthrow of the United States government?

4. Have you ever been at a party celebrating someone who has been accused of domestic terrorism?

5. Do you know anyone or have you ever been to a party and gave a toast to someone who is accused of being a Muslim terrorist?

6. Do you or any of your friends have the belief that terrorism doesn’t really exist? And that by definition jihad is only a holy struggle?

7. How many of you or how many of your friends have hired members of the Muslim Brotherhood to provide security for your business or their business? Or would hire members of the Muslim Brotherhood to go through and put together your security for your town?

8. Do you have any friends that believe the Muslim Brotherhood is largely secular and good?

9. Do you know anybody that thinks NASA’s foremost goal should be Muslim outreach, so you can help them and NASA can help them feel good?

10. Do you know anybody who believes that Occupy Wall Street features the best people in our country right now?

11. Is it even conceivable that anyone you know or associate with would think that killing Osama Bin Laden was a tough decision? With that, you have a single friend who in that case would make sure that we have a “blame someone else” memo ready just in case it went wrong?

12. Do you have anybody in your circle of friends or your circle of influence that believes America and Israel is the biggest obstacle to peace and stability in the world. Do you know anyone who believes the United States constitution needs to be a photo negative to be right with the world today?

13. Would you or anyone you know take a gift given to the United States after 9/11, a bust of Winston Churchill, and try to give it back to the prime minister on your first meeting? And when he says, “No, no, that’s a gift, you can keep it,” would you or anyone in your circle of influence then take that bust, box it up, ship it back yourself and say “We don’t need it anymore”?

14. Do you know anyone, a single person, who has a wife or a husband that has never been proud of the United States of America until something good happened in their life?

15. Do you know anybody who would actively defend allowing a baby to die without treatment in a hospital if an abortion failed? That the baby would be born outside, the doctors would have it, and they would be allowed to put it in a closet and just let it die?

16. Would someone in your life withhold needed money from poor countries or suggest that needed money from poor countries was withheld unless they change the Constitution to be pro-abortion?

17. Do you know anybody who believes the only way out of debt is to spend $5 trillion in three and a half years? Or believes Solyndra and other green businesses were a good bet, and that the people’s hard earned money is something you should gamble with and you think that it should continue?

18. How many people do you know personally that would give a shout out to someone to say, “Hey, I just want to say hi to Bob over there and thank Bob – It’s been a great day, Bob,” before you had to announce to the country that 13 soldiers were murdered by an Islamic extremist on our own soil?

19. Do you know anybody who claims to be a huge Israeli supporter? Do you know anybody who says, “I’m the biggest fan of Israel, they’re our biggest and strongest ally, and I’m a huge supporter. I’m the best thing that has happened.” And that when the prime minister of that country flew from the other side of the globe to have a scheduled dinner with you, you would humiliate him and blow off for dinner? Let him eat alone while you had a quiet dinner someplace else with friends? Do you know anybody who says, “I am the biggest supporter of Israel,” and then visited all of the Muslim countries around Israel but couldn’t find the time to go to Israel? And that as Israel’s biggest, most loyal supporter, believes they should go back to the indefensible ’67 borders? I understand it if you’re not a fan of Israel, but if you’re a fan of Israel, do you know a soul that is a true fan of Israel that says, “Yes, go back to the ’67 borders”?

20. Do you know any committed capitalist who believes in redistribution of wealth?

Tell they are the same.


108 posted on 06/02/2012 5:35:47 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: Yashcheritsiy; xzins; Jeff Head; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl; SoConPubbie; cripplecreek; Agamemnon
Basically, the pro-Romney people are trying to sell us on their candidate by asking us to ignore his entire history....

Actually, dear Yashcheritsiy, I was trying to focus attention on his personal history, not to ignore it.

I suspect not a few people around here easily fall for conspiracy theories....

Once again, I didn't start off as a "pro-Romney people." But he's the best candidate standing right now; one who has a good chance of being elected President. And that helps me with "Job One": removing a criminal conspiracy from the Oval Office.

117 posted on 06/02/2012 6:07:37 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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