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Outcry over Romney's Mass. affirmative action move
Miami Herald ^ | 6/1/2012 | Andrew Miga

Posted on 06/02/2012 7:29:54 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote

WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney scuttled the Massachusetts government's long-standing affirmative action policies with a few strokes of his pen on a sleepy holiday six months after he became governor.

No news conference or news release trumpeted Romney's executive order on Bunker Hill Day, June 17, 2003, in the deserted Statehouse. But when civil rights leaders, black lawmakers and other minority groups learned of Romney's move two months later, it sparked a public furor.

Romney drew criticism for cutting the enforcement teeth out of the law and rolling back more than two decades of affirmative action advances.

Civil rights leaders said his order stripped minorities, women, disabled people and veterans of equal access protections for state government jobs and replaced them with broad guidelines. They complained Romney hadn't consulted them before making the changes, snubbing the very kind of inclusion he professed to support.

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To: CharacterCounts
As for us "couple of dozen" posters who disagree with your capitulation, perhaps you can get this site's owner to ban us all.

No, I'd rather you just accept reality: he's the nominee. Obama's the opponent. One of those two will win in November.

Those are facts I'd be willing to bet my life savings on. Now it's your choice how to proceed.

21 posted on 06/02/2012 8:22:41 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Baynative
My father had a brilliant lab technician (black lady) who worked for him back in the 1970's and told him the same thing.

FWIW, we just found Dad on a tribal registry in the 1940 census, which was just made public in April. We have no idea when or why he was taken off, but guess it was probably in the 1960's when AA hiring and free stuff from the government for the right ethnicity first reared its ugly head.

Dad never talked about it nor used it to get any job or promotion. We grew up thinking we were white with some Native Americans in the family tree and cousins we met at family reunions. We never realized it was so close.

22 posted on 06/02/2012 8:23:21 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: CharacterCounts

Dont want anyone banned for differing opinion, but the reality is that its either Mittens or Obama in November and while mittens may not be even close to our favorite pick, he is still better than obama by a mile.


23 posted on 06/02/2012 8:31:32 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Civil rights leaders said his order stripped minorities, women, disabled people and veterans of equal access protections for state government jobs and replaced them with broad guidelines.

Whoa. Hold on. Mitt OPPOSES special treatment for ANY ethnicity, religion, sexual behavior choice, gender, or age group?

Damn. Sounds pretty conservative to me.

Icing on the cake: he pissed off "civil rights leaders".

24 posted on 06/02/2012 8:53:32 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: GlockThe Vote

Well, there are a few Democrats who took advantage of the Mitt ban to sow discontent, and plenty of people here were happy to jump onto their threads and help. They have slowed down now that people can respond. It’s a sad circumstance we have to deal with. We can’t blame people for being disgusted with moderates, or Republicans who call themselves progressives. Mitt is better than Obama, infinitely better, and for that reason he has my vote, but that is a low hurdle. What he does from this point on will determine whether or not he deserves support from conservatives.


25 posted on 06/02/2012 9:17:47 AM PDT by pallis
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To: GlockThe Vote; All
From the article, buried down on page 2, since they probably think it's a good thing:

"To quell such criticism, Romney appointed a special advisory panel that included minority and civil rights leaders to recommend changes.

"The changes the panel wanted became too hot for the administration to deal with," said Leonard Alkins, who was head of the NAACP's Boston branch during the controversy and was a member of Romney's advisory panel. Alkins said many of the panel's recommendations were aimed at bolstering the policies Romney had abolished.

"Romney essentially walked away from the fight, ignoring his own advisory panel. Instead, he had state officials effectively follow the old affirmative action policies he had formally revoked with his executive order."

So when faced with criticism, he effectively left the old affirmative action policies in place despite his own executive order, and brought in the very people who are part of the problem to sit on an advisery board to be its solution?

Sorry guys, but this doesn't exactly make Romney a conservative hero or anti-affirmative action crusader. At the very least, the entirety of the article suggests that he's weak-willed and will back down whenever an action of his is challenged by the Left.

26 posted on 06/02/2012 9:24:15 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
At the very least, the entirety of the article suggests that he's weak-willed and will back down whenever an action of his is challenged by the Left.

Given that the Democrats had 80% of both legislative houses and could impeach and remove him at will, with the support of the MA electorate, I think this merely means the guy understands that he can only push as far as the political environment will allow. Politicians don't have the freedom we do of pushing for whatever we want, regardless of whether it's politically possible.

27 posted on 06/02/2012 9:50:40 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Given that the Democrats had 80% of both legislative houses and could impeach and remove him at will, with the support of the MA electorate, I think this merely means the guy understands that he can only push as far as the political environment will allow. Politicians don't have the freedom we do of pushing for whatever we want, regardless of whether it's politically possible.

Look ZF, it's time to get the stories straight. Was Romney our hero and paladin of conservative values, or was he the powerless pawn of the Massachusetts Democrat legislature? He can't be both, yet all we hear is the selective choice of one or the other based upon whether it will make Romney look good, or will preserve him from looking bad. That sort of logic is the type of thing that FReepers would decry if we were talking about anybody else but the GOP nominee. It just doesn't wash.

Further, if your argument really had merit, then he never would have made the provocative action to begin with.

28 posted on 06/02/2012 10:10:04 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: CharacterCounts
I predicted that many of you "hold my nose" ABOs would over a short period of time evolve into Romney lovers.

I predict that on the day after election day no one here will be surprised to see you floating in the punchbowl.

29 posted on 06/02/2012 11:13:30 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Vigilanteman
We grew up thinking we were white with some Native Americans in the family tree and cousins we met at family reunions. We never realized it was so close.

Harvard Law School might have an opening soon.

30 posted on 06/02/2012 11:15:40 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: GlockThe Vote

I am liking Romney more and more


31 posted on 06/02/2012 12:00:08 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: GlockThe Vote

Romney, while I don’t like him or want him as president, as right in this move. Indeed - he really is in favor of equal protection -

Equal doesn’t mean same. It means that you base hiring and recruiting on the merits of the individual, not the color of their skin.


32 posted on 06/02/2012 12:52:07 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Dan Nunn
I have accepted reality a long time ago. Obama is going to lose this election in a landslide and will be lucky to get more than 5 states. Romney neither wants nor needs my help.

I am looking past the election on how told Romney to at least some conservative ideals, and in my mind, throwing our support to him without concrete promises is not the way to accomplish this.

I do have a problem with the Romney lovers who were masquerading as "hold your nose" conservatives, but now are feeling enabled to come out of the closest.

33 posted on 06/02/2012 3:51:13 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
See my post at 33.

The banning comment was a joke, since the person doing the banning here is a lot closer to my position than the people who want us gone.

34 posted on 06/02/2012 3:58:41 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: CharacterCounts

I don’t like anyone being banned. I know what Romney is and I know what Obama is. Romney stinks ad probably will be horrible, however, Obama is instant lethal injection suicide.

It is what it is. I voted for Ron Paul in the primary, but now it’s about getting Obama the he’ll out office, nothing else.


35 posted on 06/02/2012 4:04:29 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Well, almost noone is able to stand up to the race baiters. At least he actually tried.
36 posted on 06/03/2012 12:41:19 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Cicero

I will refuse a black Dr. on that basis. I will assume AA is the reason they are where they are. Apologies to the truly capable, but I look out for #1.


37 posted on 06/03/2012 6:47:59 AM PDT by wrencher
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Someone in Miami thinks this article will HURT Romney?

Why would Romney care a fig about a single Black voter? He knows damn well 90% of them will again support Obama, and they get more handouts than any other Americans. There is much to be gained with other voters from stripping Blacks of their racial quotas, subsidies and welfare largesse.

38 posted on 06/03/2012 6:55:57 AM PDT by montag813
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