Bold Call: Microsoft To Pass Android, Grab No. 2 Spot In Tablets Behind Apple

Forbes ^ | 6/01/2012 | Brian Caulfield

[SmokingJoe]

Morgan Stanley analyst Kathryn Huberty upped her sales projections for the tablet computer market Thursday, and argued that Microsoft will grab the number two spot in the market, after Apple iPad and ahead of tablets running Google‘s Android software, with the launch of Windows 8 later this year.

Huberty and the tech team at Morgan Stanley are now estimating shipments of 133 million tablets in 2012, up 57% from their original estimates; and 216 million tablets in 2013, up 112%. No surprise there, tablet sales have been growing fast — despite high-profile stumbles by Hewlett-Packard and Dell — thanks to demand for Apple’s iPad tablet computer.

The bold call: Microsoft will grab a substantial chunk of the market with the introduction of Windows 8 later this year. “Our survey suggests 25% of users expect to buy Windows 8 tablet and Office is a key feature, especially for those considering their first tablet purchase,” Huberty and her team wrote in an analysis of the market released Thursday.

[Jonty30]

I’ve left my Windows computer continuously on, just putting it to sleep when I don’t need it and it works flawlessly.

[SmokingJoe]

“Bold” is close. Insane is more like it

Nothing bold about it. Windows 8 will sell hundreds of millions of units, in the desktop and tablet versions. That is a given.

“Windows 8 RT (the tablet variant) will be an unmitigated disaster”

Chuckle!
First of all, the Windows RT is the ARM version of Windows 8(albeit it will be a tablet). The Intel version will be for both tablets and desktop(switchable between the two). The desktop version will run the over 6 million programs that run on Windows 7, and we are talking about real programs (like corporate programs that run real businesses and have millions of lines of code), not some funny little iPad “Apps”. Kinda makes the 500,000 so-called “apps” on iPhone look like tiddlywinks don't it?

“(”what do you mean my new Windows 8 tablet won’t run my Windows programs - that is why I bought it !”). “

The Intel version of Windows 8 will run both legacy Windows 7 programs(in desktop mode) and Windows 8 metro tablet “apps”(in tablet mode).

“The bipolar switch from desktop to Metro to desktop will doom Windows 8 desktop to the dustbin along with Microsoft Bob, Windows ME, and Vista.”

How much you wanna bet on that?

[SmokingJoe]

Windows 8 is going to be a flop on a massive scale.
Not a “Windows Vista” kind of flop, but a “Windows Me” kind of flop

Dream on, Applebot!

[SmokingJoe]

If MS thinks they can beat Android and then catch up to iOS after that, they are sorely ignorant

Windows Phone 7.5(Mango) is already a better than the latest iOS. Even Apple's own Siri (on the iPhone) gave the nod to the Nokia Lumia 900 (running Windows Phone)..that is until Apple swiftly ahem..”amended” it to give an answer that it liked better.

[SmokingJoe]

If MS thinks they can beat Android and then catch up to iOS after that, they are sorely ignorant

Windows Phone 7.5(Mango) is already a better than the latest iOS. Even Apple's own Siri (on the iPhone) gave the nod to the Nokia Lumia 900 (running Windows Phone)..that is until Apple swiftly ahem..”amended” it to give an answer that it liked better.

[SmokingJoe]

If MS thinks they can beat Android and then catch up to iOS after that, they are sorely ignorant

Windows Phone 7.5(Mango) is already a better than the latest iOS. Even Apple's own Siri (on the iPhone) gave the nod to the Nokia Lumia 900 (running Windows Phone)..that is until Apple swiftly ahem..”amended” it to give an answer that it liked better.

[SmokingJoe]

Apologies for the triple post.

[Tzfat]

Clearly, you have Remonditis. It you will reread what I said, I clearly identified Windows 8 RT as the tablet disaster. If you think Windows 8 on an Intel tablet is not dead on arrival, then one must wonder what you've been smoking for the past 6 years when various tries at Intel tablets have scored zero.

I don't have to bet. The bets are being placed by enterprise managers across the spectrum. Most will not risk their careers by jumping into Windows 8 - tablet or desktop. But by all means, bookmark this and come back in 6 months.

[SmokingJoe]

“Clearly, you have Remonditis.”

Whatever that means.

“It you will reread what I said, I clearly identified Windows 8 RT as the tablet disaster.”

You implied Windows 8 RT Windows 8 RT was THE sole tablet version of Windows 8, and promptly followed it up by hollering that Windows 8 RT will not run legacy Windows programs, without making it clear that the Intel version of Windows 8 tablets will run both metro apps and legacy Windows 7 programs with no problems at all, which makes it perfect for corporate use.
Windows 8 RT (on ARM), will probably serve a totally different(mostly consumer) market.

“If you think Windows 8 on an Intel tablet is not dead on arrival, then one must wonder what you've been smoking for the past 6 years when various tries at Intel tablets have scored zero”

You mean kinda like how Apple first touch screen PDA(the Newton) bombed on a massive scale? And the Apple Pipin etc?

Ten Apple Products that Bombed Out
http://voices.yahoo.com/ten-apple-products-bombed-out-5395073.html

Meanwhile on your Windows 8 on Intel being “dead on arrival” spiel...
IDC: Windows 8 on x86 Devices, Not ARM Best Choice for Enterprises: IDC

An IDC analyst says x86 architecture devices would be more compatible with existing Windows environments for businesses. With ARM, Windows 8 devices “might as well be an iPad,” said Al Gillen, IDC program vice president for system software research.
IDC If enterprises are going to embrace the coming Microsoft Windows 8 operating system, especially for use on tablet computers, they should strongly consider buying tablets built on the Intel x86 processor architecture rather than on the ARM architecture because x86 would be more compatible with their existing Windows environment, an enterprise software industry expert says.

Asked if a Windows 8 tablet would be more compatible with a Windows-based enterprise than a tablet running Apple iOS or Google Android, Al Gillen, program vice president for system software research at IDC, replied “yes and no.”

“The answer is yes for Windows 8 on x86 chip architecture, but Windows 8 on ARM might as well be an iPad,” said Gillen. “A Windows 8 ARM-based device will not support traditional x86 Windows applications—period, end of story.”

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Windows-8-on-x86-Devices-Not-ARM-Best-Choice-for-Enterprises-Analyst-561173/

[SmokingJoe]

If you think Windows 8 on an Intel tablet is not dead on arrival

Intel's low power consumption “Medfield” Z2460 processor is already running on Android phones with no problems at all, why can't they happily run Windows 8 tablets?:

"The West's First Intel/Android Phone

It’s all kicking off at the lower end of the smartphone market. Next week sees the release in the UK not only of the Nokia Lumia 610 (my review here), but the Orange San Diego – continuing Orange’s tradition of giving their own-branded phones the telephonic equivalent of names usually claimed by professional gamblers or exotic dancers.

Intel inside - the Orange San Diego
The San Diego was codenamed “Santa Clara”, from which one can discern the most interesting thing about it – this is the first phone most western users will see running on an Intel chip. In global terms, it follows on the heels of the India’s Lava Xolo 900 and the Lenovo LePhone 800 in China. The San Diego and the Xolo 900 are based on the Intel reference model, so look similar and have similar internals: a 1.6 GHz Atom “Medfield” Z2460 processor (single core), 1GB of RAM, 16GB of non-expandable internal storage and a 4.03 inch screen with 1024×600 resolution."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielnyegriffiths/2012/06/01/orange-san-diego-smartphone-launch/