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Why Bill Clinton Works to Undermine Barack Obama
Yahoo! News ^ | Sat, Jun 2, 2012 | Mark Whittington

Posted on 06/03/2012 2:12:25 PM PDT by presidio9

Former President Bill Clinton appears to be playing a game that is calculated to embarrass the current president, Barack Obama, whom it is reported he has despised since the 2008 campaign.

First, according to Big Government, Clinton appeared on the Piers Morgan show and slammed the Obama campaign's attack on Mitt Romney's tenure as the CEO of Bain Capital. He is just the latest high-profile Democrat to so.

Then, Clinton went to Wisconsin for a get-out-the-vote effort in advance of the recall election, the Chicago Tribune reports. President Obama has studiously avoided venturing to Wisconsin, concluding as have most people that the attempt to recall Republican Gov. Scott Walker is doomed to failure.

Clinton has not been so reticent. It is a win/win situation for him. If by some miracle Walker should fall, it will be seen as entirely due to Clinton's last-minute efforts. If Walker prevails, Clinton will get kudos from big labor and other Democrats for at least trying while the president stayed away.

The new book about Obama, "The Amateur," was recently excerpted in the New York Post. The excerpt depicts how Clinton, fuming with rage at Obama since 2008, attempted to persuade his wife, Hillary, to challenge Obama this year. The secretary of state demurred, but the account illustrates the lengths to which Clinton would go to exact revenge on the president.

And well he might. It is not just the humiliations Obama visited on Hillary Clinton during the last campaign that has enraged the former president. While the Clinton presidency was entertaining from a tabloid standpoint, it was mostly a successful one, especially when Newt Gingrich became speaker of the House in the 1994 takeover of Congress and thus provided some much-needed adult supervision. Clinton sees the ruin that Obama has caused

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billclinton; obamaoneterm; x42

1 posted on 06/03/2012 2:12:34 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
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2 posted on 06/03/2012 2:14:45 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: presidio9

Look at another possibility:

Obama doesn’t want to run for Hillary either...


3 posted on 06/03/2012 2:15:13 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: presidio9

I have never hated Clinton. I hate Obama. Hate him.


4 posted on 06/03/2012 2:15:52 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: presidio9

“Bill Clinton...it is reported he has despised [Obama]since the 2008 campaign.”

By the left’s own standard, doesn’t this make Clinton a racist?


5 posted on 06/03/2012 2:20:32 PM PDT by Spok
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To: ilovesarah2012

I never hated either one, but disliked both. The Anointed One even more so and it will be a delight to see him gone and this country can breath a sigh of relief.


6 posted on 06/03/2012 2:20:45 PM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: presidio9

See tag line.


7 posted on 06/03/2012 2:22:00 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Zero ineligible! economic crisis!! Hillary 2012!!! Blame the birthers)
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To: gorush
Actually, I can't stand Bill Clinton. He was an incompetent boob, until the GOP took over Congress and provided Parental Supervision to his Presidency. The only reason Monica's ex-boyfriend didn't foist the same crap on America that B. Hussein's doing, is because there were some Republicans with a backbone and Democrats with a conscience back then, who refused to knuckle under.

Bill Clinton reminds me of Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor character. At times malevolent, other times obsequient, always scheming and plotting. What he's doing is similar to the scene in Superman II when he rats out Superman to Zod, telling him about the machine that takes away super powers. When it turned out the machine worked THE OTHER WAY, Luthor is fawning all over Superman, claiming he was working for him the whole time.

8 posted on 06/03/2012 2:25:26 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I briefly HATED Bill Clinton the sexual predator after this photo came out. I am a bit puzzled by the rehabilitation Clinton (the man and the presidency) has undergone on this forum and in other Conservative circles. It appears based upon a positive comparison to the disaster of the Obama presidency. It needs to be reiterated that the only reason Clinton did not do more harm than he did was because he couldn't. A Republican congress kept him in check and was primarily responsible for the accomplishments that he now lists on his personal ledger.

On a side note, it is my personal belief that the current playbook of the liberal media (and I don't put this author in their ranks) is to go mildly negative on Obama until possibly as long as the DNC Convention (and Obama's inevitable uptick). At that point, expect to be inundated with "The New Comeback Kid" articles and news reports.

9 posted on 06/03/2012 2:26:23 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I hate the Clintons as well, just for different reasons.


10 posted on 06/03/2012 2:28:21 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: presidio9; a fool in paradise

I hate bad people.


11 posted on 06/03/2012 2:32:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

that’s very well put....you hit the nail on the head.

I don’t think I have ever despised any person in any office at any time in this country’s history as I have the current residents...and I’d have to throw in Pelosi too.

Just pure evil run amok..it has been hell to live thru it and watch it all take place.

I hope God will have mercy on America and “shed His Grace on thee”... and “stand beside her and guide her, through the night with a Light from above”...


12 posted on 06/03/2012 2:35:03 PM PDT by homegroan (Veni, Vedi, Velcro....since 1998)
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To: presidio9

Payback’s a mofo’er. Klintoon knows exactly what he’s doing and nobama probably does as well and has to smile when he wants to spit.


13 posted on 06/03/2012 2:38:39 PM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: presidio9

“I am a bit puzzled by the rehabilitation Clinton (the man and the presidency) has undergone on this forum and in other Conservative circles...”

Spirited: Clinton is a sociopathological opportunist who sees that the time is right for him to pose as the “savior” who will save conservatives and all other Obama-fearing Americans from another Obama presidency.

He and Obama are two-of-a-kind; they cannot be trusted.

Conservatives should not allow their fear and hatred of Obama to overrule their good sense. Rather they ought to stand back and simply watch as Clinton and Obama destroy each other.


14 posted on 06/03/2012 2:41:57 PM PDT by spirited irish
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To: MuttTheHoople

There are allegations from the Clinton camp that two prominent Hilary delegates were about to challenge Obama delegates seating in the convention due to the thuggish tactics that Obama used during caucus. One was shot in his office and the attacker was killed. No motivation was established for the shooting. Another was a black woman who supported Hilary, who shortly after announcing a challenge to Obama seating of delegates was killed in a car accident. It is also alleged that Bill Clinton tried to intervene on the thuggish Obama tactics and was told in certain terms by Obama supporters that Chelsea can get hurt if he did. If all these allegations are true, then Bill Clinton’s hatred of Obama and his supporters goes beyond political competition.


15 posted on 06/03/2012 2:42:59 PM PDT by Fee
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To: spirited irish

I prefer to think of Clinton as a true politician and he knows which way the winds are blowing regarding Obama.

Romney is not much better and is also a true politician, just from the other side.


16 posted on 06/03/2012 2:43:45 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: presidio9

Bill Clinton always was, still is, and always will be a sleaze. But he is a sleaze with a finely honed ear for what the public is saying, and like the populist he is, he will find a parade and get around in front of it.

Traits and skills that the Current Occupant never had, or never developed. Affirmative Action has not been his friend in all this, as he was always bumped to the top without ever having to demonstrate he knew what he was doing, or even how to take instructions very well. The Won has been counseled over and over HOW to get the best results for his agenda, and he still obstinately refuses to take advice.

George Soros is simply cutting his losses for now, and if he must use his other set of lackeys, the Clinton dyad, it’s just business. After all, he owned them first, before Barack Hussein Obama ever came along.


17 posted on 06/03/2012 2:47:46 PM PDT by alloysteel (Fear and intimidation work. At least on the short term.)
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To: presidio9
I don't know that I trust anything from yahoo.com, much.

But, I do find it interesting that a.) they reference (Breitbart's) Big Government and b.) they state this: "Clinton sees the ruin that Obama has caused the country and the Democratic Party, and must wail and gnash his teeth at night."

I'm shocked they mentioned either of the above.

18 posted on 06/03/2012 2:48:04 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Fee

Clinton was the first “Black” President. Just ask him. Then Obama comes along, add the delegates that dumped Hillary even though she had the popular vote, and that was that.

I imagine Bill spends lots of time plotting to take him down.


19 posted on 06/03/2012 2:48:12 PM PDT by imemyself
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To: Erik Latranyi
Romney is not much better and is also a true politician, just from the other side.

Hate Romney's milktoast politics all you want. It is very unfair to compare him as a man to Bill Clinton.

20 posted on 06/03/2012 2:49:27 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
It is not just the humiliations Obama visited on Hillary Clinton during the last campaign that has enraged the former president.

If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, then nothing is...

21 posted on 06/03/2012 2:53:20 PM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: presidio9

Rush Limbaugh agrees with you. Obama is gonna keep getting hammered until about July, when you’ll see some good news of some kind (Unemployment down to 8.1%, figures NOT getting revised, whatever), and you’ll hear about nothing but “The Comeback Kid.”


22 posted on 06/03/2012 3:03:52 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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To: MuttTheHoople

They want Obama to raise more money to give to the media to buy more political commercials.


23 posted on 06/03/2012 3:14:27 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

For those younger out here, Bill Clinton is as vindictive as Obama. A lot of people around him died under mysterious circumstances. Commerce Secretary, Ron Brown, for one. One of his Arkansas troopers that knew too much, another. Dozens.


24 posted on 06/03/2012 3:50:19 PM PDT by CT
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To: presidio9

I too am puzzled at anything positive said about the Marxist Hillary and her Con-Man husband. If it would get Bill a piece of tail he’d sell every child in this nation into slavery. They are scum.


25 posted on 06/03/2012 3:54:20 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: MuttTheHoople

I paid more attention during Clinton’s presidency than any other and what I have to point out to others often is the fact that he was not a popular President. Almost 6 in 10 voted against him in ‘92, more voted against him than for him in ‘96, popular president’s don’t get impeached, and I truly believe the Clinton’s wanted the Lewinsky scandal to break, to keep the attention away from from the Indonesian/Chinese campaign contribution scandal.


26 posted on 06/03/2012 3:57:47 PM PDT by 03A3
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To: presidio9

Ping


27 posted on 06/03/2012 4:03:49 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion mill.)
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To: presidio9

Sadly Clinton’s presidency was probably to the right of Romney’s governorship.

I don’t recall any govt mandates or legalization of gay marriage.


28 posted on 06/03/2012 4:07:08 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: presidio9
Hate Romney's milktoast politics all you want. It is very unfair to compare him as a man to Bill Clinton.

I didn't. I compared their political stripe, which is self-preservation and populism.

I am fairly confident that Romney, as a man, is nothing like Bill Clinton, the man.

29 posted on 06/03/2012 4:08:09 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: X-spurt

I had wondered who Obama was always giving the finger to.


30 posted on 06/03/2012 4:20:30 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: ilovesarah2012
I have never hated Clinton. I hate Obama. Hate him.

THE DOWNSIDE LEGACY ARCHIVES

A little time spent might change your mind.

31 posted on 06/03/2012 4:24:54 PM PDT by Stentor ("All cults of personality start out as high drama and end up as low comedy.")
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To: presidio9
Former President Bill Clinton appears to be playing a game that is calculated to embarrass the current president, Barack Obama, whom it is reported he has despised since the 2008 campaign.

A game calculated to embarrass The One? A fools mission by a fool who could not himself be embarrassed.

32 posted on 06/03/2012 4:40:07 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: Stentor

I’m familiar with most of that. I just don’t understand why they didn’t take out Obama if they (Bill and Hillary) had that much power.


33 posted on 06/03/2012 4:41:54 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: presidio9

see tagline

34 posted on 06/03/2012 5:50:22 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: CT

The official body count of former FOBs was 94 when he left office.

Obama’s count is only 27 and none high profile.


35 posted on 06/04/2012 1:04:17 AM PDT by Waywardson (If you fear Obama..... vote for Romney. If you fear God... DON'T !)
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To: saintgermaine; stevie_d_64; little jeremiah; davetex; re_nortex; WOSG; hocndoc; Bigun
I never hated either one, but disliked both. The Anointed One even more so and it will be a delight to see him gone and this country can breath a sigh of relief.

Let's just say I want the ringside popcorn concession, when these two charlatans and traitors are strangling one another in an everlasting cage-match in Hell.

Interesting article, and I've agreed for some time with this general idea, that the Klintonx had their own agenda, and Barky knocked over the apple-cart.

36 posted on 06/04/2012 2:50:43 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Fee

“It is also alleged that Bill Clinton tried to intervene on the thuggish Obama tactics and was told in certain terms by Obama supporters that Chelsea can get hurt if he did.”

Any source on that?

TIA


37 posted on 06/04/2012 3:05:34 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: 03A3
I truly believe the Clinton’s wanted the Lewinsky scandal to break, to keep the attention away from from the Indonesian/Chinese campaign contribution scandal.

That's still an interesting theory that has some credit on the Right, but IMHO the Klintonx probably would have preferred that neither come up in public. They defeated Fred Thompson with the Chinese Wall and the disgusting BenVeniste and the toady Jamie Gorelick (may she burn in hell). There's no other word for it: the Senate Democrats bullied, intimidated, and beat the GOP senators, and Fred, like a drum. Fred must have wondered what was wrong, since things didn't go at all like they had during Watergate.

The Klintonx fought like hell to keep Monica under wraps with the "Mad Monica" theory retailed by the slime-trailing Sid "the Squid" Blumenthal -- Max Blumenthal's sperm donor -- to the late Chris Hitchens and his wife, who were nominally Blumenthal's friends. (What sort of man lies to friends and tries to use them politically?)

38 posted on 06/04/2012 3:06:51 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: presidio9
Right in the middle of reading “The Amateur”

Yup...bubba does not like the Kenyan...at all

39 posted on 06/04/2012 3:08:56 AM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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To: Fee

I had read about thuggish tactics in Iowa but this goes to another level. Yikes!


40 posted on 06/04/2012 3:18:02 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: presidio9

Hillary,Bill and Zippy all need to be in Ft. Leavenworth wearing orange jumpsuits.

A pox on them all.


41 posted on 06/04/2012 3:22:22 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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