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To: thefactor

sorry ....theyre searching nothing without a warrant, theyre cuffing no one in my family with out probable cause

whats hard to grasp?

why are you so willing to give up your rights?

you sound like no freeper I know

so why are you here?


54 posted on 06/05/2012 10:34:58 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: Revelation 911
You can think that way if you'd like, but you'd be wrong. Here's the dark little secret of policing: it was never intended to protect individuals. It protects society at large. Police do not protect victims, because, by definition, they have already been victimized. Police protect society by attempting to remove the perpetrator.

In this case, police may handcuff the people they are stopping as long as the police are reasonably in fear of their own safety. Given the nature of the crime, that would stand up in court. You only need reasonable suspicion to stop someone, probable cause to arrest. And in certain circumstances you do not need permission or a warrant in order to search the immediate, grab-able area for someone who has been stopped.

This isn't me talking, this is precedent. Whether I (or you) agree with it or not doesn't matter in the least.

59 posted on 06/05/2012 11:14:44 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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