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Public Pension Reform Wins in... Wisconsin, San Diego and San Jose
cbs47 ^ | 6-6-12 | cakid1

Posted on 06/06/2012 2:16:14 AM PDT by cakid1

Some would argue this is a trend.

In Wisconsin, Governor Scott Walker survived a recall election after he moved to cut the costs of public employee pensions.

Here in California voters in San Diego and San Jose followed suit.

Tonight.. Voters in San Jose approved Measure B.

The passage of Measure B mean future employees will have to pay ....

(Excerpt) Read more at community.cbs47.tv ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; US: Ohio; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: pension; pensions; sandiego; sanjose; unions; wisconsinshowdown

1 posted on 06/06/2012 2:16:27 AM PDT by cakid1
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To: cakid1

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/07/us/politics/voters-in-california-approve-pension-cuts-results-suggest.html?_r=1&hp
Voters in California Appear to Approve Pension Cuts

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303918204577449410119033138.html?mod=WSJ_WSJ_US_News_5
San Jose Voters Back Pension Overhaul, Early Results Show


2 posted on 06/06/2012 2:42:27 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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the dems won one of the 4 senate recall elections. they have control of the Wisconsin senate.
3 posted on 06/06/2012 3:12:55 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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the dems won one of the 4 senate recall elections. they have control of the Wisconsin senate.

http://www.wisconsinvote.org/

4 posted on 06/06/2012 3:13:25 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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the dems won one of the 4 senate recall elections. they have control of the Wisconsin senate.

Bummer! When I went to bed at midnight they were all winning.

5 posted on 06/06/2012 3:34:31 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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Bummer! When I went to bed at midnight they were all winning.

Same here. This race had the republican at over 60% at 11:30pm (east coast).

6 posted on 06/06/2012 3:47:06 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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Bummer! When I went to bed at midnight they were all winning.

Same here. This race had the republican at over 60% at 11:30pm (east coast).

7 posted on 06/06/2012 3:47:15 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet; Dixie Yooper

Don’t worry. This is a temporary situation. In Nov. the Rep will take back the Senate with the new districts designed by the GOP.


8 posted on 06/06/2012 4:00:03 AM PDT by Atlantan
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The Senate does not reconvene until January and by then the new redistricting and November elections will have taken place, possibly allowing the Republicans to regain the Senate, as some pundits are predicting. A hollow symbolic victory for the Rats.


9 posted on 06/06/2012 5:11:26 AM PDT by rawhide
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We really need to find a fair compensation package to pay current employees NOW and knock off this BS of paying them for LIFE for service provided! It burns me up to be paying firemen, police, and teachers 100% of their salary plus benefits TODAY for work they did for some people in 1975. No offense to these great Americans and the faithful service they provided to their local communities 40 years ago, but I did not agree to this and the politicians who made these promises are gone. We cannot afford it. Sorry your politicians lied to you.


10 posted on 06/06/2012 5:21:49 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Dixie Yooper
the dems won one of the 4 senate recall elections. they have control of the Wisconsin senate.

Big whoop. The WI legislature's session has ended. All that's happening now is committee work. They will not resume until after the November elections, at which point half the Senate is up for election, using the redistricted boundaries.

11 posted on 06/06/2012 5:31:30 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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Years ago President Franklin Roosevelt called the idea of public sector unions "unthinkable and intolerable." Not long after, AFL-CIO President George Meany declared that it was "impossible to bargain collectively with the government." They were both speaking to the morality of public servants making demands on taxpayers' earnings under the threat of withholding public services -- or as FDR put it, "looking toward the paralysis of government by those who have sworn to support it."

"Stroke of the pen. Law of the land. Kinda cool." --Clinton presidential aide Paul Begala, July 1998

Public Service doesn't mean you're to be serviced by the public for life

President Kennedy’s Executive Order 10998, allowing Federal unions, is what opened the door for public sector unions at the state and local level, which is leading to bankruptcy from bloated public sector salaries, benefits, and retirement plans. Businesses that offered plans like many governments have would go bankrupt. Gov’t entities will, too, eventually, but it will be much more painful.

This is why unions should again be outlawed for public employees.

When collective bargaining was brought into American schools in the 1960s, it was a revenue stream and power base for Big Labor. Suddenly, union bosses became more interested in building political muscle than educating children.

At that point the battle between unions and school boards became more focused on salary, benefits, pensions and working conditions for adults, and less about students.

Kids are only pawns in the self-serving union game.

What is the purpose of teacher unions? To work for children? Establish new and better requirements? Push their members to better serve parents and children?

"Despite what some among us would like to believe, it is not because of our creative ideas. It is not because of the merit of our positions. It is not because we care about children. And it is not because we have a vision of a great public school for every child. NEA and its affiliates are effective advocates because we have power. And we have power because there are more than 3.2 million people who are willing to pay us hundreds of millions of dollars in dues each year because they believe that we are the unions that can most effectively represent them, the unions that can protect their rights and advance their interests as education employees" ...National Education Association's just-retired General Counsel Bob Chanin. (The NEA is the County and State Association's parent body).

NEA General Counsel Bob Chanin Says Farewell:

VIDEO

As legendary New York teachers union leader Albert Shanker said, "When school children start paying union dues, that's when I'll start representing the interests of school children."

All government unions should be banned. The idea that government workers need protection from guess who?? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, is ridiculous. remember, teachers are government employees. Ban government unions.

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12 posted on 06/06/2012 6:46:28 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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