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Tomorrowland meets Texas - Futuristic freight system planned for I-35 corridor
Fort Worth Star-Telegram ^ | June 6, 2012

Posted on 06/06/2012 2:44:37 PM PDT by Zakeet

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To: Charles Martel; Paladin2

Why not just build a normal railroad track with no crossings? A lot cheaper!


41 posted on 06/06/2012 4:36:20 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Charles Martel; Paladin2

Why not just build a normal railroad track with no crossings? A lot cheaper!


42 posted on 06/06/2012 4:36:35 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Considering the fact that the trucks carry the products we buy, I’d say that we’re at least partially responsible for damage done to the roads. If we want to stop buying things we can ease the wear and tear.


43 posted on 06/06/2012 4:37:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

It isn’t necessary to get all trucks off the road — it’s a matter of taking off as many as makes economic sense to do so.

That’s why I added the bit about switching modes. New hubs can be added, the distance between them doesn’t need to remain at 500 miles. That likely reflects the economics of older intermodal technologies — the point where it becomes economic to go multi-modal. If containers can be switched rapidly and cheaply (which new technologies do allow), then the break-even distance between trucking only, and multi-modal drops.


44 posted on 06/06/2012 4:39:50 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Paladin2

In thinking about this it could function much like a ski chair lift. The next problem would be to devise the terminal at each to load and unload the shipping containers at an efficient pace of production...


45 posted on 06/06/2012 4:46:49 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: cripplecreek

You do realize you’ve created a false dilemma? We can continue to use trucks when it makes sense to do so. If multi-modial solutions are used when economic (rail, barge, or ship), then we will have reduced wear and tear on the infrastructure, and saved shipping costs. Now, we can use those tax savings, and freight savings to buy more of what we actually want.


46 posted on 06/06/2012 4:47:03 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Kartographer
"Why not just build a normal railroad track with no crossings? A lot cheaper!"

Not enough stimulus.

Note that the Milwaukee RR took out their well engineered, electrified rail operations in MT/ID/WA in the 1970's.

47 posted on 06/06/2012 4:48:56 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: shotgun

Rail operations at the ends of some coal operations have continuous load/dump loops.


48 posted on 06/06/2012 4:51:18 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

It doesn’t matter. Here in the real world things are the way they are.


49 posted on 06/06/2012 4:54:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Spktyr
adding another lane

A truck loosely based on this idea could let cars pass beneath, doubling lane capacity.


50 posted on 06/06/2012 4:55:12 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses
A truck loosely based on this idea could let cars pass beneath, doubling lane capacity.

Seems like they actually tested a bus like that in China. There were problems. LOL
51 posted on 06/06/2012 4:57:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Reeses
A truck loosely based on this idea could let cars pass beneath, doubling lane capacity.

Seems like they actually tested a bus like that in China. There were problems. LOL
52 posted on 06/06/2012 4:58:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Reeses

The straddling bus. It has huge sky. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv8_W2PA0rQ


53 posted on 06/06/2012 5:02:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Right. They’ve always been that way, always will. Nothing ever changes. No new technologies are ever developed, and if they are they don’t work.


54 posted on 06/06/2012 5:03:54 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Zakeet

Powered by electricity? We had rolling brownouts last summer. Is there suddenly a glut of electrical power?


55 posted on 06/06/2012 5:19:41 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.)
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To: Reeses

I’m guessing you haven’t checked bridge heights on I-35 lately. Most of them are only a little taller than a standard truck. Rebuilding ALL the bridges could cost more than adding a lane in some areas.


56 posted on 06/06/2012 5:35:39 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: cripplecreek

Even if it was only adopted by UPS, FedEx and USPS in Texas, it would get a third of the trucks currently on I-35 off the road and they could have their containers dropped off at their facilities right away rather than having to wait for a train to arrive, unload, go to the next station, unload, etc., etc. - and unlike the train, it scales up and down plus isn’t held to a fixed schedule.

FYI, it’s a bunch of ex-Lockheed engineers behind this.


57 posted on 06/06/2012 5:42:15 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Zakeet

Looks to me like they’re mostly concerned with going green.

http://www.metrans.org/nuf/documents/Roop.pdf


58 posted on 06/06/2012 5:50:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Paladin2

Apparently this isn’t as privately funded as the article indicates. Stephen Roop seems to favor “Public-private partnerships” for everything else so I think its fair to assume he favors them here.

http://tti.tamu.edu/documents/0-4565-1.pdf


59 posted on 06/06/2012 6:17:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Reeses
I've worked around heavy objects suspended in some fashion in the air.

In general, it's not a good idea to stand or walk under same unless you have some redundant support(s) and a good reason to be there.

60 posted on 06/06/2012 6:22:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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