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Jeb Bush speaks about aging father, George H.W. Bush
The Upshot ^ | June 7, 2012 | Mike Krumboltz

Posted on 06/07/2012 12:23:20 PM PDT by presidio9

In an interview with Charlie Rose on "CBS This Morning," former Florida governor Jeb Bush revealed that his father, George H.W. Bush can no longer walk unassisted.

Jeb Bush said his father, 87, is still good mentally, but "he can't walk... He has to, you know, he's help by a stroller... That's hard for a guy that's been so vital and vigorous in life."

[Related: George W. Bush's favorable ratings lowest of any living president]

Indeed, there are few senior citizens as vital as George H. W. Bush. For many years, on his birthday, the 41st president made it his habit to skydive from an airplane. He did it for his 75th and 80th birthdays, as well as number 85 back in 2009.

In 2009, after landing, he joked, ""It's a great, exhilarating feeling... I don't feel a day over 84."

In the interview, Jeb Bush commented on his brother's legacy as president. "There's a fine line between stubbornness and the positive side of that, which is dogged determination. And I think what people will begin to see is that he wasn't stubborn. He was totally determined and principled about it. And the country was safer

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TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush41

1 posted on 06/07/2012 12:23:23 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Prayers for the man who nominated Justice Thomas to the SCOTUS.


2 posted on 06/07/2012 12:30:21 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

He nominated Souter too. Reagan was BRIGHT RED, The Bushes(41,43) were/are PALE Mauve.


3 posted on 06/07/2012 12:32:20 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: presidio9

In the pictures of the portrait unveiling, George H. W. Bush was in a wheelchair. It wasn’t very noticeable and I haven’t read anything about it, but he was in the chair. I wondered and, so, this news isn’t surprising.


4 posted on 06/07/2012 12:33:26 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: Jemian

5 posted on 06/07/2012 12:35:50 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: Perdogg

Amen to that. Bush 41 may not measure up to the idological purity standards of some here, but he’s a patriot and a Great American in my opinion.

And speaking of opinions, the Clint Eastwood line came to mine as I read that snark about Bush 43’s popularity rating. One thing I always admired about W is the fact that he didn’t give a tin sh1t about what the polls said. And neither do I.


6 posted on 06/07/2012 12:38:34 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: US Navy Vet

But Bush 41 was probably the biggest badass ever to hold the title of CIC. I’m still scratching my head over how the left managed to make the “wimp” thing stick until he was out of office.


7 posted on 06/07/2012 12:39:02 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: US Navy Vet
Hum?

In the older days saying someone was RED meant you thought they were communists, do mean like RED / BLUE state thing in reference to RED?

I am going with that, just want to make sure.

The Presidents Bush made mistakes, some big some not so big, made big good changes, some not so big - not once, repeat not once did I ever beleive they did not love this country with all their soul and that their motivation was to leave a better America not drive it to ruin.

8 posted on 06/07/2012 12:51:28 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: presidio9

I think he was a combo of strong president and a very sincere sentimental man.

He managed the breakup of the USSR (not Reagan) and insisted on all of Germany in NATO, when everyone was saying we’d have to compromise. He also supported Yeltsin against the hardliners’ coup.

Very good president done in by the press.


9 posted on 06/07/2012 1:13:22 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: svcw

And when did this red blue state thing get switched??


10 posted on 06/07/2012 1:21:10 PM PDT by AUsome Joy
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To: AUsome Joy

I do not know Joy, seems to me sometime around Clinton. Might be interesting and probably doesn’t matter kind of research, but then I wont have to do the laundry. ;-)


11 posted on 06/07/2012 1:24:21 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: AUsome Joy

“And when did this red blue state thing get switched??”

When the freaks and anti-American communists/socialists realized they needed more stealth to “fundamentally transform” America.


12 posted on 06/07/2012 1:26:56 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: US Navy Vet
He nominated Souter too. Reagan was BRIGHT RED, The Bushes(41,43) were/are PALE Mauve.

And Reagan gave us Justices O'Connor and Kennedy.

13 posted on 06/07/2012 1:36:03 PM PDT by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: AHerald

And VP Bush, Mistakes 1,2 and 3!


14 posted on 06/07/2012 1:38:32 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: AUsome Joy

Wasn’t it Tim Russert’s stupid chart that switched red and blue a few elections ago?


15 posted on 06/07/2012 1:38:54 PM PDT by Montanabound
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To: AUsome Joy

Well, I did look it up.
Apparently, when color coding was first used in the olden days on TV as below and changed in 2000.
So there we go.


* Originally states were color coded as shown on TV:
Republicans being associated with blue-bloods and old money, hence blue; and Democrats with liberal agendas and red being the color of revolution

“Today” show on October 30, 2000 to refer to those states of the United States whose residents predominantly vote for the Republican Party or Democratic Party presidential candidates, respectively. A blue state tends to vote for the Democratic Party, and a red state tends to vote for the Republican Party. According to AlterNet and The Washington Post, the terms were coined by journalist Tim Russert, during his televised coverage of the 2000 presidential election.


David Nyhan in the Boston Globe on October 15, 1992: “But when the anchormen turn to their electronic tote boards election night and the red states for Clinton start swamping the blue states for Bush, this will be a strange night for me.”

Nyhan’s column, he refers to red states as Democratic states and blue states as Republican states — just the opposite of current usage. As the Washington Post explained a few days ago:

In 1976, NBC identified states won by Gerald Ford in blue and Jimmy Carter’s states in red. On election night in 1980, ABC News showed Ronald Reagan’s march to the White House as a series of blue lights on a map, with Carter’s states in red. Time magazine assigned red to the Democrats and blue to the Republicans in its election graphics in every election from 1988 to 2000. The Washington Post’s election graphics for the 2000 election were Republican-blue, Democrat-red.

Although there was never any kind of consensus on this, prior to 2000 it was more common to associate red with Democrats and blue with Republicans.


16 posted on 06/07/2012 1:40:37 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: US Navy Vet
Reagan was BRIGHT RED, The Bushes(41,43) were/are PALE Mauve.

Plus the GOP forced President Reagan to accept George H.W. "CIA-New World Order" Bush as his vice president.

17 posted on 06/07/2012 1:45:47 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Montanabound

I like the color red better than blue so I am glad. It is all in your imagination thinking it is communist. So what? The only ones I hear saying that is FREEPERS. Red is just a color...a great one mind you. I would not want a blue mustang...Now a Red Mustang is awesome.


18 posted on 06/07/2012 1:46:09 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: presidio9

Seeing much too much of old Jeb these days. Hey, GOP, we do not want this RINO on the ticket.


19 posted on 06/07/2012 1:46:37 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: arasina

Plus the GOP forced President Reagan to accept George H.W. “CIA-New World Order” Bush as his vice president

I hate when I hear this. Reagan was his own person and made his own decisions...this reminds me of the people who claimed that Reagan had a feable mind. No he was smart and knew what he was doing. Also people say that McCain was forced to pick Palin as if Maverick McCain can be told what to do.


20 posted on 06/07/2012 1:48:33 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: AUsome Joy; svcw
I had wondered the same thing because as I grew up I had identified Republicans with blue signs and Democrats with red signs. It appears that in 2000 is when the left called us red states.

"The terms red states and blue states came into use in the United States presidential election of 2000 on an episode of the "Today" show on October 30, 2000 to refer to those states of the United States whose residents predominantly vote for the Republican Party or Democratic Party presidential candidates, respectively."

From: Red State-Blue State

21 posted on 06/07/2012 1:51:42 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: presidio9
[Related: George W. Bush's favorable ratings lowest of any living president]

Related? How on earth is this related to the rest of the article?? The only way it is related is by genetics. Good grief, these media people are ridiculous!

22 posted on 06/07/2012 2:03:02 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Williams
He managed the breakup of the USSR (not Reagan)

If it were not for Reagan, GHWB, as did Presidents PRIOR to our 40th President, would have continued to preside over the abominable foreign policy known as 'detente' with the Soviet Union. America's past administrations had validated the Soviet annexation, domination and control of Eastern Europe, didn't give a good damn about the Baltic states, and were content to let Moscow "live and let live".

Not so Ronald Wilson Reagan, his approach to the Cold War was direct and straightforward, i.e. "we win, they lose" and his policies were what brought about America's victory over the Soviets, so don't hand us any crap about GHWB 'handling' the breakup of the USSR, he 'handled' it the same way that 0bama is responsible for 'catching' 0sama bin Laden. He just happened to be sitting in the Oval Office at the right time, when the Soviet monolith came crashing down. It wasn't GHWB who went to the Berlin Wall and thundered "MR GORBACHEV? TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!"

And let nobody forget that.
23 posted on 06/07/2012 2:06:16 PM PDT by mkjessup (Eternal Vigilance (aka FReeper Tom Hoefling) has my vote for President in 2012.)
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To: US Navy Vet
Reagan was BRIGHT RED

Reagan was a RED???

24 posted on 06/07/2012 2:09:36 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: presidio9

I met him about a year and a half ago and he was not getting around too well.


25 posted on 06/07/2012 2:12:56 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Williams
He managed the breakup of the USSR (not Reagan)

Yeah right! I remember that during the breakup, GHWB's administration was worried that Yeltsin and his people would be worse than the Soviet leaders and were rooting for the continuation of USSR.

26 posted on 06/07/2012 2:29:37 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: Williams
He managed the breakup of the USSR (not Reagan)

Yeah right! I remember that during the breakup, GHWB's administration was worried that Yeltsin and his people would be worse than the Soviet leaders and were rooting for the continuation of USSR.

27 posted on 06/07/2012 2:29:54 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: napscoordinator
I hate when I hear this. Reagan was his own person and made his own decisions...this reminds me of the people who claimed that Reagan had a feable mind.

Your opinion. Sorry you hate to hear it. I have read other of your posts and find we agree on very little.

President Ronald W. Reagan is my favorite president of all time. Of course he was not of feable feeble mind. It was a political decision. The GOP would not have supported his presidential run if he hadn't "selected" George H.W. Bush as his running mate. It's as simple as that.

28 posted on 06/07/2012 2:35:17 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: presidio9

The left excells at demonizing and minimizing people. I grew up in a Lefty household and when I was five years old I thought that Ike was an old, feeble, not very intelligent man who only played golf and that Adlai Stevenson was almost a God and maybe more brilliant than God. Last night we watched IKE portrayed by Tom Selleck and the discrepancy between the hero and the man I was made to “see” was dramatically depressing to me.


29 posted on 06/07/2012 2:37:50 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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To: mkjessup

Ronald Reagan was great, but it’s also true the USSR fell not under Reagan, but under GHWB, and the elder Bush managed it superbly. All conventional wisdom was that East Germany would have to be kept in the Russian sphere, definitely no NATO troops there. Bush insisted on and got 100% German reunification in NATO.

As for a posting here about Yeltsin, when hardline commie generals tried to stage a coup, Bush backed Yeltsin and prevented a possible return to the cold war.

Has Bush been reelected, as a 2 term president his accmplishments would be far more recognized.


30 posted on 06/07/2012 3:05:04 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams
Bush insisted on and got 100% German reunification in NATO.

It also helped that Helmut Kohl was the German leader back then.

31 posted on 06/07/2012 3:07:23 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: presidio9

The Bush Sr. liberry (for those of you in Rio Linda) is near Houston, and I was there about 8 months ago. They mentioned then that he was in a wheelchair.

I’ve also met him a couple of times. Very nice and funny as hell. I’ll concur that he was a crappy president, but he’s a hell of a man.


32 posted on 06/07/2012 5:00:27 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Shelayne

I HAD to leave that link in there for exactly that reason. Thanks for noticing.


33 posted on 06/07/2012 6:15:54 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
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34 posted on 06/07/2012 7:59:50 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: bigbob

And speaking of opinions, the Clint Eastwood line came to mine as I read that snark about Bush 43’s popularity rating. One thing I always admired about W is the fact that he didn’t give a tin sh1t about what the polls said. And neither do I.
...........
I worked at US Customs and Border Patrol during W’s term. W was prepared to throw open the borders officially before 9/11. After 9/11 it was all unofficial. still is..

The border problem is the mess that’s left over from the crack up of an elite program to form a north american union.


35 posted on 06/07/2012 8:08:58 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Camera shy, I guess.

Bonus question: Which one of these flyboys looks least qualified for a life in politics.

Answer: The youngest one.


36 posted on 06/07/2012 10:02:46 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Williams
Has Bush been reelected, as a 2 term president his accmplishments would be far more recognized.

You mean like selling out the Kurds, and letting Saddam Hussein live to murder, rape and pillage the innocent for another decade or so?

Yeah, that was quite an accomplishment. /s
37 posted on 06/07/2012 11:41:40 PM PDT by mkjessup (Eternal Vigilance (aka FReeper Tom Hoefling) has my vote for President in 2012.)
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To: US Navy Vet

To be fair, It was Reagan who put Sandra Day on the court.


38 posted on 06/08/2012 6:41:56 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

THAT was Mistake No 2


39 posted on 06/08/2012 6:48:42 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: mkjessup

What stupidity, he led a coalition that smashed Sadaam, against everyone saying he couldn’t succeed. Freed Kuwait, destroyed Sadaam’s forces.

Do you realize Kuwaiti’s, Shiites and Kurds were being slaughtered BEFORE He smashed Sadaam?

That it set up Sadaam to be defeated in the second go round?


40 posted on 06/08/2012 9:35:25 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams

If Poppy RINO had all the balls that everyone wants to attribute to him, there wouldn’t have had to BE a second round if he finished the job in the first place.


41 posted on 06/08/2012 11:03:51 AM PDT by mkjessup (Eternal Vigilance (aka FReeper Tom Hoefling) has my vote for President in 2012.)
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To: mkjessup

It was a strategic decision, and unclear which one got it right. Maybe the next time you lead a coalition and invade Kuwait and Iraq, you’ll do it better.

RINO’s don’t invade and free Iraq and smash Sadaam Hussein, as GHWB did.

Easy to be an armchair general, isn’t it?


42 posted on 06/08/2012 11:54:40 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams

Get your history right, GHWB didn’t finish the job, he left it for GWB. It has nothing to do with being an ‘armchair general’, it has everything to do with paying attention to the colossal screw up during the first Gulf War. It may have been a ‘strategic decision’ as you put it, but the results are clear for everyone to see.

Here’s a little mental exercise for you: If Saddam had been taken out like the garbage he was in February ‘91, how many innocent Iraqis might have lived, instead of being tortured and summarily executed by Saddam and his boys Uday and Qusay, how many Iraqi women might have escaped being raped by official ‘rapists’ on Saddam’s payroll, get the picture?

And do try to calm down, hero worship will wind up your blood pressure and nerves every time.


43 posted on 06/08/2012 1:10:33 PM PDT by mkjessup (Eternal Vigilance (aka FReeper Tom Hoefling) has my vote for President in 2012.)
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To: Williams

And as an afterthought:

There is a reason why Margaret Thatcher never had to say “Don’t go wobbly Ronnie”, to our 40th President, but indeed had to stiffen up GHWB’s resolve with those same words.

But you probably don’t want to go there.


44 posted on 06/08/2012 1:16:21 PM PDT by mkjessup (Eternal Vigilance (aka FReeper Tom Hoefling) has my vote for President in 2012.)
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To: mkjessup

It is my own general opinion we should have finished Sadaam the first time.

However, as Iraq descended into chaos, and now very plainly is in the Iranian sphere of influence, one can make a pretty good argument for leaving the weakened and isolated Sadaam in power as a Sunni counterweight to Iran.

It’s not so simple as you started out, with epithets against GHWB. I’m well aware that GWB “finished” the job.

However again, he did NOT finish the job. We had enormous forces in Iraq, Iran eventually was involved in killing those forces. That was the time to turn West and take out Assad in Syria, I recall statements he would have fell in a week, much easier than Iraq. Next, we should have turned East and reduced Iran.

So while I’m glad Sadaam was defeated, “the job” isn’t so simple and it is far from finished.

BTW certainly Colin Powell played an enormous role, directly calling on GHWB to stop the fighting once the original objectives were met.

GHWB knew more about the international situation than us put together times 100. He did a masterful job and there is no reason to call a man who prepared, launched and won that war a “RINO”. Further, he achieved cleaner results and lost far fewer of our troops.

Not to mention he’s a legitimate war hero (not like traitor Kerry) and he’s an extremely good person.

It’s not hero worship, but the man is a hero.


45 posted on 06/08/2012 1:57:42 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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