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Eurozone agrees to lend Spain up to 100 billion ($125 billion)
Reuters ^ | Sat Jun 9, 2012 3:37pm EDT | Luke Baker and Julien Toyer

Posted on 06/09/2012 12:50:03 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Eurozone finance ministers agreed on Saturday to lend Spain up to €100 billion ($125 billion) to shore up its teetering banks, and Madrid said it would specify precisely how much it needs once independent audits report in just over a week.

After a 2½-hour conference call of the 17 finance ministers, which several sources described as heated, the Eurogroup and Madrid said the amount of the bailout would be sufficiently large to banish any doubts.

"The loan amount must cover estimated capital requirements with an additional safety margin, estimated as summing up to €100 billion in total," a Eurogroup statement said.

Spain said it wanted aid for its banks, but would not specify the precise amount until two independent consultancies—Oliver Wyman and Roland Berger—deliver their assessment of the banking sector's capital needs some time before June 21.

"The Spanish government declares its intention to request European financing for the recapitalization of the Spanish banks that need it," Economy Minister Luis de Guindos told a news conference in Madrid.

He said the amounts needed would be manageable, and that the funds requested would amply cover any needs.

A bailout for Spain's banks, beset by bad debts since a property bubble burst, would make it the fourth country to seek assistance since Europe's debt crisis began. With the rescue of Greece, Ireland, Portugal and now Spain, the EU and IMF have now committed around €500 billion ($625 billion) to finance European bailouts. …

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bailoutloans; eucrisis; euloansharks; europeanunion; eurozone; eussr; loansharking; sellout; spain; spaincrisis
Another “member state” whose leadership sold out to the EU loan sharks.
1 posted on 06/09/2012 12:50:18 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

You don’t lend poor people money, you give it to them. They’ll never see a dime of that back.


2 posted on 06/09/2012 12:53:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Olog-hai

Spain is still screwed anyway. They’re just kicking the can. I believe it’s current unemployment is over 20%.

Next up Italy? Portugal?


3 posted on 06/09/2012 12:57:20 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They will make sure they see something back. The price that was always demanded was that of national sovereignty—which, frankly, was given up pretty much when the peseta was eschewed for the euro. The fanatical EU elites want everything centralized into a giant, unwieldy central government . . .


4 posted on 06/09/2012 12:57:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: EEGator

Cyprus is most likely next.


5 posted on 06/09/2012 12:59:08 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

6 posted on 06/09/2012 1:00:16 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Obama needs more time. After all -- Rome wasn't burned in a day.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

What’s the old definition of insanity? When you try the same thing over and over expecting a different result.


7 posted on 06/09/2012 1:03:04 PM PDT by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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To: huckfillary

If only the “right people” had of instituted Spain’s “Green Jobs” initiative, they’d be hunky dory.


8 posted on 06/09/2012 1:05:09 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (they all stink)
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To: Olog-hai

This “loan” is really being financed largely by the frightened Germans. Basically it is another futile financial gimmick. The capital squandered by three generations of deficit spending cannot be easily replaced. Greece was the opening act. Now comes Spain, later Italy and France. The Germans ought to realize that they simply do not have the wealth to stave off European bankruptcy. Their efforts will not be enough or even appreciated. They will ultimately be blamed in the end. Best course is to forget about bailouts, let bankruptcy and rock bottom occur, use aid as charity, and let the true rational recovery and rebuilding begin.


9 posted on 06/09/2012 1:05:48 PM PDT by allendale
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To: ClearCase_guy
thank you...
10 posted on 06/09/2012 1:05:59 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: allendale

That’s not what the German elites are worried about. They along with the other EU elites are quite fanatical about this “ever closer union” thing. This is why the loans haven’t stopped since 2008, and they aren’t worried about the opinion of the common German in this.


11 posted on 06/09/2012 1:08:28 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

TWO OPTIONS:
1) Print
2) Collapse

Option One is going to happen, because too many Pols would lose their jobs if they allowed Option Two.

So they will keep printing until they just can’t print, anymore.
WIEMAR GERMANY, ANYONE?


12 posted on 06/09/2012 1:13:34 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: allendale

@ Post 9

You are exactly right with one caveat. The real tragedy is that future generations will owe the banksters the money we are spending today to protect the profits of these same banksters.

The generational theft practiced by Western governments today is immoral, illegal (by our constitution), and unethical. It’s frightening how few people even bother to notice what is happening in the open. It’s outrageous that much of this borrowing is not done to make the world better, it’s simply done to preserve the profits for the very same banksters/politicians that rigged the game in the first place.

You and I feel the pain. They get their bonuses and party on.


13 posted on 06/09/2012 1:14:14 PM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids will pay for it!)
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To: allendale

“This “loan” is really being financed largely by the frightened Germans.”

Incorrect, it’s largely going to be financed by YOU, through the Fed, the IMF, higher gas prices, and more soaring inflation.

WHAT? You didn’t think the Messiah was going to allow Europt to collapse before Election Day, did you? What did you think the FAIL SPEECH was about? More Bailouts, more “Stimulus” for his cronies.

I’ve been calling this one for months. I HATE always being right about this crap. But if you pay enough attention, it should have been obvious to anyone with a brain what was going to happen.


14 posted on 06/09/2012 1:17:57 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Olog-hai

That ought to carry them through the month.


15 posted on 06/09/2012 1:19:04 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: Olog-hai
Yesterday I read a rumor in "The Telegraph" that Europe was going to let the banks fail. It would have been the only sensible decision.

So, of course they didn't.

16 posted on 06/09/2012 1:33:44 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: BfloGuy

The EU’s about radical “solutions” rather than sensible decisions. If their solution is to disestablish national governments and replace them with one central government, that’s the goal they’ll work towards, even via blackmail and loansharking. Remember also that they go by the social market economy rather than a free market (which they call the “Anglo-Saxon economic model”) . . . way different rules.


17 posted on 06/09/2012 1:38:34 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: tcrlaf

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn WE gave them billions to Spain. obama thinks he owns the country and can do anything he wants. And so far, he’s been right.


18 posted on 06/09/2012 1:47:01 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: Terry Mross

More TWIST, more ZIRP, more QE (only they will callit something else), and the biggest holder of Spanish Debt becomes the IMF (60% of it funded by the US Treasury)


19 posted on 06/09/2012 1:53:19 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Olog-hai

Lend money to a country that borrowed and squandered its way to bankruptcy? These people are going to ruin the reputation of the word “stupid.”


20 posted on 06/09/2012 1:57:59 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Olog-hai
which they call the “Anglo-Saxon economic model

The Germans forget that they're half of that model.

21 posted on 06/09/2012 2:00:17 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: allendale
This “loan” is really being financed largely by the frightened Germans. Basically it is another futile financial gimmick. The capital squandered by three generations of deficit spending cannot be easily replaced. Greece was the opening act. Now comes Spain, later Italy and France. The Germans ought to realize that they simply do not have the wealth to stave off European bankruptcy. Their efforts will not be enough or even appreciated. They will ultimately be blamed in the end. Best course is to forget about bailouts, let bankruptcy and rock bottom occur, use aid as charity, and let the true rational recovery and rebuilding begin.

The Germans want a captive export zone for their manufacturing. The question is: how high a price are they willing to pay for the privilege? The vassal states (borrowers) know this and will push Germany to the limit or beyond it. Germany will decide to cut some loose, and pay the price, and keep some in the fold, and pay the price. To date, they have not succumbed to giving the serfs a vote, aka fiscal union. Meanwhile, they continue to export.

They are milking the cows, which are saying "Either buy me or upgrade my feed."

22 posted on 06/09/2012 2:07:51 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: BfloGuy

Not according to them. They’re all about the Soziale Marktwirtschaft . . . and as far as peoples go, they see the “Angles” as quite separate. The EU elites do curse the free market.


23 posted on 06/09/2012 2:20:18 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: huckfillary
What’s the old definition of insanity? When you try the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

I like to keep banging my head on the wall,

A little boy told his Pop,

I like to keep banging my head on the wall,

'cause it feels so good when I stop.

24 posted on 06/09/2012 2:21:12 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Olog-hai
The EU elites do curse the free market.

I know. I was being semi-facetious.

25 posted on 06/09/2012 2:33:12 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Olog-hai

26 posted on 06/09/2012 3:36:27 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
And all you gotta do is find yourself in the right place at the right time!


27 posted on 06/09/2012 3:38:44 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Standing Wolf

That would also include people that buy US Treasury bonds.


28 posted on 06/09/2012 3:54:02 PM PDT by doggieboy
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To: huckfillary

The problem is we have people here in this country that want to commit the same insanity...only with Mexico, North Amer. Union, NAFTA, Amero currency, etc

Would not be surprised there are some US dollars involved in this Spanish bailout. Note, that, unlike Greece...we have actual Spanish banks doing business in the USA (BBVA, Bank of Madrid)


29 posted on 06/09/2012 7:47:21 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (CNN ratings are so down, Ted Turner asked the UN for relief)
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To: Olog-hai

This isn’t enough by half.


30 posted on 06/09/2012 7:51:15 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: razorback-bert

Amen. Was interesting watching this story as reported on NBC Nightly News Sunday by anchor Lester Holt. He touted it as a fantastic development. The reporter or commentator he then interviewed regarding it couldn’t have said “for now” many more times or in many more ways. Surprised me for NBC.


31 posted on 06/11/2012 2:36:38 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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