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To: JustSayNoToNannies

“Poor analogy - a better one would be American law enforcement allowing toxic waste sellers to sell to Mexicans for ultimate personal consumption. “

That’s ridiculous. Whether the people in the target country want something for their own amusement or because they want to profit by accepting it is irrelevant. The relevant point is that people on both sides of the border stand to profit off something that a clear majority of the citizens in the target country have outlawed. Shipping toxic waste to Mexico without regard to the harm caused by the Mexican profiteers, and any Mexican laws against such disposal, is exactly analogous.

You are arguing about “personal consumption” of drugs, but that is not the issue. If drugs were legalized in the US, which I favor, then Mexico could do whatever they liked about the cartels because there would be little profit or motive for violence in the US drug trade. (I’d be more than happy to stop spending money trying to prevent people from destroying their own lives. That’s Darwinism and best to let that end of the gene pool kill itself off.) Until we get real about repealing Prohibition, however, making things easier for the cartels to operate in Mexico will increase the violence in the US since the cartels will have more resources to devote to their operations here.


37 posted on 06/12/2012 3:23:58 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: Kellis91789
So by analogy, you’d be OK with American law enforcement turning a blind eye to toxic waste dumpers using the Rio Grande just as it flows into Mexico ?

Poor analogy - a better one would be American law enforcement allowing toxic waste sellers to sell to Mexicans for ultimate personal consumption.

That’s ridiculous. Whether the people in the target country want something for their own amusement or because they want to profit by accepting it is irrelevant.

That's not the distinction I'm making. I said "ultimate" personal consumption recognizing that there would also be middlemen making profits. The distinction is that, unlike toxic waste dumping, putting drugs in one's own body violates nobody else's rights.

The relevant point is that people on both sides of the border stand to profit off something that a clear majority of the citizens in the target country have outlawed. Shipping toxic waste to Mexico without regard to the harm caused by the Mexican profiteers, and any Mexican laws against such disposal, is exactly analogous.

As I said, past a certain point, it may be time to say to that clear majority of the citizens in the target country, "Sorry, neighbor, we won't pay for your bluenosery with our blood."

If drugs were legalized in the US, which I favor, then Mexico could do whatever they liked about the cartels because there would be little profit or motive for violence in the US drug trade. (I’d be more than happy to stop spending money trying to prevent people from destroying their own lives. That’s Darwinism and best to let that end of the gene pool kill itself off.)

Agreed.

Until we get real about repealing Prohibition, however, making things easier for the cartels to operate in Mexico will increase the violence in the US since the cartels will have more resources to devote to their operations here.

Possibly - but if Mexico decides it's not worth the price in their blood to enforce our laws, I think a better course than demanding their continued bloodshedding is for us to wise up about our laws.

38 posted on 06/13/2012 11:52:57 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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