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Fuel From Plastic Nears Commercialization
www.designnews.com ^ | 05-31-2012 | Ann R. Thryft, Senior Technical Editor, Materials & Assembly

Posted on 06/11/2012 9:46:34 AM PDT by Red Badger

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Common household items made of mixed plastics, whether clean or contaminated, can serve as a feedstock for PolyFlow's pyrolysis-based plastics-to-fuel conversion process. (Source: PolyFlow)

In February 2012 JBI launched its second Plastic2Oil processor, the prototype of the company's commercial rollout. (Source: JBI)

Pyrolysis-based energy recovery processes, such as JBI's Plastics2Oil, can produce fuels that do not need further refining, such as the Naphtha, Fuel No. 2 (furnace oil), and Fuel No. 6 (heavy fuel) shown here (left to right). (Source: JBI)

Blest's small, continuously operated pyrolysis-based plastic-to-fuel systems, such as the B-120, can be powered by solar energy or generators. (Source: Blest)

FOR OIL THOU ART, AND TO OIL THOU SHALT RETURN!......

1 posted on 06/11/2012 9:46:38 AM PDT by Red Badger
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2 posted on 06/11/2012 9:49:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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knock!!.........


3 posted on 06/11/2012 9:50:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Red Badger

Ok, lets hear all the excuses why converting plastics to fuel instead of dumping them into the oceans and landfills is a bad thing.


4 posted on 06/11/2012 9:52:36 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

The old standby reason: AGW, CO2, etc..............


5 posted on 06/11/2012 9:54:30 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: chessplayer

100years from now all those landfills will be valuable as mines for all sorts of resources......


6 posted on 06/11/2012 9:58:09 AM PDT by Kozak (The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: Red Badger

We got fuel!

The Fool Shortage is OVER!

7 posted on 06/11/2012 10:04:27 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: chessplayer

“Ok, lets hear all the excuses why converting plastics to fuel instead of dumping them into the oceans and landfills is a bad thing.”

Just a guess, but maybe because like all recycling it is a waste of time because there is not net energy production. Also, it’s a long-established fact that the landfill problem, aside from NIMBY, is a phantom issue.


8 posted on 06/11/2012 10:04:54 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Red Badger
The world is awash in crude.

Shale Play in Western Siberia is 80 Times Bigger than the Bakken

9 posted on 06/11/2012 10:07:47 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: chessplayer

I just think it’s funny Plastic made from Petrol distilates and bi-products is going to be turned back into petrol to be turned into more plastic to be turned into more petrol it’s a vicious cycle that’s going to end up costing billions of dollars to the taxpayer to keep recycling driving the cost of fuel up instead of finding an alternative for the waste plastic that is efficient .

I’m by any means a Bio-chemist or a scientist but i can see this costing tens times as much as it’s worth as a nation i cannot see why we have not turned to natural gas ..

But never the less we should be finding a way to use these scrap plastics that don’t cost billions to reconvert and no i don’t want our oceans polluted with it either so don’t go there !


10 posted on 06/11/2012 10:14:25 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: Red Badger

I love how they labeled petroleum based products as alternative fuel....


11 posted on 06/11/2012 10:37:28 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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Changing World Technologies and Thermal Depolymerization does this with ANY feedstock, not just plastic. It has the benefit of being up and running, and if the government would just get out of the way, might turn the relatively small number of landfills we have in this country into goldmines.

Of particular interest is the list of feed stock and output.

Having to pay for feedstock, and not initially receiving the tax credit for biodiesel production may have slowed them down, but CWT and TDP have been cranking in there for nearly a decade.

Imagine a pair of flatbed trucks with the TDP gear mounted. Drive from landfill to land fill, turning waste into fuel/water/minerals.

Probably a great way to handle the zombie apocalypse...

silly....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_depolymerization


12 posted on 06/11/2012 10:52:22 AM PDT by petro45acp ("Don't" read 'HOPE' by L Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman...it will bring tears to eyes. BORE!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Red Badger

Isnt diesel ping list redundant?


13 posted on 06/11/2012 11:11:14 AM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: Red Badger

notice, there are no claims for PTFs being more economical in any sense other than in any scenario that presumes the cost-per-barrel of oil will always continue to rise

in the entire history of the industrial-level production of oil. such presumptions that have so far not panned out

the price of oil goes up in times when it seems scarce. and that price generates new capital investment in oil, the supply and potential supply rises, and in time the price reverts to historic norms, until the cycle repeats again

on for that possible time when ULTIMATE sources in the ground quit rising fast enough with new technology,

if I would put any bets on “new” oil sources, beyond the traditional - in the ground sources - it would be on sources engineered using bacteria - something even the oil majors are putting R&D into


14 posted on 06/11/2012 11:32:13 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Red Badger

I’ve done some personal research on small-scale pyrolysis - thought it might be an interesting way to convert waste plastic to a liquid fuel for use on a homestead. Would never make a profit per se, but plastics (on other pyrolysable products) are pretty ubiquitous and waste composed of them is pretty inexpensive to aquire.

There are a fair amount of experimenters out there playing with this (many youtube vids).

I realize the economies of scale in an industrialized process, but I wish there was more research focused on small scale production. I am not a chemist or anything remotely close, but it seems that some pretty inexperienced people are able to make this work despite having no funding and no real expertise.


15 posted on 06/11/2012 11:33:24 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Red Badger

new injectors on the shelf, just in case......:o)


16 posted on 06/11/2012 12:46:51 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

Get your neighbor to try it first................


17 posted on 06/11/2012 12:54:37 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Red Badger

LOL.... :o)

Stay safe RB !


18 posted on 06/11/2012 2:39:13 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: chessplayer

No excuses, I’ve just been reading this type of stuff for years, most recently with Changing World Technology’s TDP process. I wish these folks luck and hope it turns our well for them.


19 posted on 06/12/2012 5:43:19 AM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: Red Badger

Wait I minute...I thought FUEL came from PLASTIC...(it does for me... from credit cards!)


20 posted on 06/13/2012 4:28:07 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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