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To: ExTxMarine
I didn’t realize how money and success could completely corrupt someone’s moral being! But, the more I see these idiots speak out, the more I realize that money and success are the only things they have in common!

I think it is more of a case of being ignorant. She calls herself a Christian, yet she doesn't bother to learn about Christ, or about the Word of God which talks about Christ in nearly every page of the Bible. She wants to take Christ as her Saviour, but not as Lord.
It doesn't work that way.
He said: [Matthew 5:17-18] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

We are all sinners, but once we have been saved by the Lord we want to please Him. If we love Him we will keep His commandments (1 John 5). We repent from our sins and turn from them. Sure, we still stumble while we are in the flesh, but we don't live in and celebrate sin. When He saved the woman caught in adultery (John 8) He told her to go and sin no more.
Telling someone that you support their living in sin is wretched. This is said either in cowardliness (preferring the praise of the world rather than God), in callousness (deeming the immortal soul of the sinner not worth saving by warning of the doom ahead), or ignorance (never bothering to read God's word, but let others tell you about it, and telling you to focus on the warm, fuzzy platitudes ... and excluding the meat).

Maybe you are right, that she said this thinking it would promote her career, but I believe she spoke due to profound ignorance.

63 posted on 06/11/2012 4:00:37 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: El Cid

Excellent post #63.

Carrie Underwood may think she’s operating out of love for her neighbor, but it must be a very weak love. As you wrote, “Telling someone that you support their living in sin is wretched.” Love does not stand by and do nothing while your neighbor self destructs.

As I wrote, we aren’t just told to love our neighbor. We’re told to love our neighbor as our self. A Christian doesn’t embrace sin in their own life, because it’s self destructive. So, why would they embrace destructive sin when a neighbor does it? That is not loving one’s neighbor as one’s self.


157 posted on 06/11/2012 10:26:47 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: El Cid; ExTxMarine

In cases like this...a talented musician that has a recoed of belief suddenly abandoning that belief to embrace the homosexual agenda... leave many wondering why. Allow me to give an explanation.

Musicians are like all artistic types, whether they are CW or heavy metal. They share a common denominator. They require others to help further their career up the ladder. That said, many ‘up the ladder’ are part and parcel of the gay agenda. Now lest you think this is always a case of ‘conform or lose a career’, it isn’t.

Musicians, especially singers are tied to the production side. They can’t just sing and get famous. They require a band behind them or a talented producer (Synth/Pro Tools/sample based production where one man and a computer make ‘the band’). Then there are recording engineers, mixers and a list of other professional types skilled in a particular aspect of music production.

PO those people and your record will have issues.

Now consider that many of them are on board the train to Gayville, or at least helping it along the tracks. The musician, in building the needed professional relationships with these folks, will be working with them 20 hours a day for months at a time. You get ‘close’ to those people and their beliefs ‘rub off’ after a while.

When half the people you work with are either gay or supportive, and you are an artistic type with an ‘open mind’ about many things (pretty much required to BE an artistic type), well, you can see where this goes. After a while, you see this as normal because in your world, it IS normal. But the world of music they inhabit is a bubble, just like any other closely knit ‘society’(for lack of a better term).

You may start out devout. But the vast majority of your ‘world’ is not and their views, again especially under these high pressure/closed conditions, rubs off.

Not saying this is right, good or anything of the sort. Just giving an explanation as to ‘why”.


183 posted on 06/12/2012 7:57:06 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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