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Bachmann: 'Is Government God? ... That's Really the Issue at Hand'
CNS News ^ | 6/8/12 | Elizabeth Harrington

Posted on 06/12/2012 3:54:45 AM PDT by rhema

In explaining her opposition to a Health and Human Services regulation that requires virtually all health-care plans to cover sterilizations, artificial contraception and abortifacients, Rep. Michele Bahmann said Friday that the issue involved in this mandate was whether the government could place itself before God and prevent institutions and people from following their faith and their consciences.

“The people want to have their liberties back and they don’t like to see religious institutions, particularly the Catholic Church, have to be forced to deny their sincerely held faith and the doctrine of their faith in order to be in compliance with government because at that point who is God?” Bachman said.

“Is government God? Or are people allowed to follow their conscience before God?” said Bachmann.

“That’s really the issue at hand and we cannot have this change that Barack Obama has put forward and that’s why you see the people here today who are working very hard to make sure they can hold on to their religious liberties,” Bachmann said.

"So, of course, we’re going to stand," said Bachmann, who indicated the House of Representatives should use any legislative vehicle possible to stop the regulation, which was issued under the Obamacare law.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has called the regulation "an unprecedented attack on religious liberty" and 43 Catholic insitutitions, including the archdioceses of New York, St. Louis and Washington have sued the Obama administration in federal court arguing that the regulation is a violation of their First Amendment right to the free exercise of religion.

The Catholic Church teaches that sterilization, artificial contraception and abortion are morally wrong, and, thus, the HHS regulation would force Catholics to act against their faith by making them provide and/or purchase coverage for these things.

At a religious freedom rally in Washington, D.C. on Friday, CNSNews.com asked Bachmann, “The House Republicans, should they include language in the next continuing resolution [CR]--to fund the government beyond Sept. 30--should they put language that would defund the HHS mandate?”

Bachmann said, “What I have said from the very beginning is that this is an issue that the American people care deeply about. The nation does not like Obamacare. They especially don’t like the fact that our religious liberties have been stripped away from us in Obamacare."

“This is the line in the sand,” she said. “This is our fundamental right for religious liberty. It is why the Pilgrims came to this country, to have religious freedom. Barack Obama is taking away that basic right from the American people. So, of course, we’re going to stand."

HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and President Barack Obama at the White House on Feb. 10, 2012. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

“And I have believed from the beginning that, in every possible area that we can, we need to fight it, whether it’s in the continuing resolution or in any other piece of legislation,” she added. “That’s why I wrote the bill to repeal Obamacare. We can’t have a bill that denies Americans our fundamental protections of religious liberty.”

Earlier, Bachmann addressed a crowd at the rally of religious leaders, activists, and politicians who were opposed to the administration’s HHS regulation on sterilizations, contraceptives and abortifacients.

“We will fight this and we will win,” Bachmann told the gathering.

The continuing resolution that was passed last December, to keep the government funded, will expire on Sept. 30, 2012. The House and Senate will have to pass another CR to keep government running when FY 2013 begins on Oct. 1

CNSNews.com asked Bachmann: “Do you think Speaker [of the House John] Boehner [R-Ohio] would support prohibiting the funding for this regulation in the next continuing resolution?”

“Well, you’ll have to ask the speaker how he feels about that,” Bachmann replied. “All I know is that in a recent poll, 66 percent of the American people want us to either fully repeal Obamacare or drastically change this legislation. It’s wildly unpopular, it’s completely unconstitutional, and it needs to go.”

Bachmann was more close-lipped when asked if she has had conversations with Boehner regarding the upcoming CR negotiations.

“Well, those conversations are between colleagues and those are ones that I wouldn’t be revealing,” Bachmann said, “but again the most important thing is that we are the people’s representatives, we need to do the will of the people.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bachmann; boehner; catholic; hhs; obama; obamacare; religion; sebelius

1 posted on 06/12/2012 3:54:55 AM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema
Is Government God?

To those in government? Yes.

2 posted on 06/12/2012 4:02:19 AM PDT by Jerrybob (Truth -- the new hate speech.)
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To: rhema

yep, government or aka as the federal “g” gangsta, is the friggin devil...no where near the glory of God..
knock the “g” back to the dirt where it belongs..


3 posted on 06/12/2012 4:02:33 AM PDT by aces
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To: Salvation
“The people want to have their liberties back and they don’t like to see religious institutions, particularly the Catholic Church, have to be forced to deny their sincerely held faith and the doctrine of their faith in order to be in compliance with government because at that point who is God?” Bachman said.
4 posted on 06/12/2012 4:09:05 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema

Wasn’t there something about, “thou shalt have no other gods before me”, er sumthin’?


5 posted on 06/12/2012 4:15:39 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: rhema

Haven’t heard much from Boehner about is, but of course that is no great surprise, we don’t hear much from him on anything.

Certainly Catholics like myself and most other religious organisations can see that this is unConstitutional, and that in itself is worrisome, but to also see that Muslims do no have to abide by this is enough to piss off a Saint.


6 posted on 06/12/2012 4:27:42 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer
A student leading a nondenominational Christian prayer at a high school football game is an illegal "government establishment of religion," but forcing Catholics to act against their faith and their conscience, while giving Muslims a free pass, is not?

Really? Really? What do they take us for???

7 posted on 06/12/2012 4:53:54 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: rhema

Perhaps I’ve missed something due to my having a life and a job etc. But has anyone seen any statements issued from the Vatican regarding this? I’d love to see the Pope tell us the official position of the church.

I’m not Catholic but I stand with them against this HHS mandate


8 posted on 06/12/2012 5:00:39 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: rhema

That is it in a nutshell.

Government has become the Don.


9 posted on 06/12/2012 5:08:23 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Campion

The take us for what we are-—suckers.

The people of the Unitedd States who elected Obama are idiots. What we have to do is change their conception of us by ridding the country of Obama by a landslide.


10 posted on 06/12/2012 5:29:15 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: rhema
"Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God, the things that are God's."

The things that are Caesar's are relatively few, the taxes necessary for basic government functions and little else. The things that are God's? Our hearts, our souls, our complete loyalty, and our continuous obedience. If government gives an order that is evil, obedience to that order is not one of the things that are Caesar's, and we are not morally compelled to obey. Since this order is also unconstitutional, both outside the Enumerated Powers and in direct violation of the First Amendment, we have no legal obligation to comply.

11 posted on 06/12/2012 8:48:17 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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To: rhema

Too slow to catch on there Michele...that’s all it is really about...don’t you see?

All the attacks on faith in the public square etc. The banning of charity and charitable food donations etc. All of that must be handled by the new god. Each must render that which the new god see fit to redistribute...because thou art to small and simple minded to be charitable.

You see...when a people hands of its culture, religion and morality to the government they do so at forsaking all others and God.


12 posted on 06/12/2012 11:51:41 AM PDT by EBH (Obama took away your American Dreams and replaced them with "Dreams from My (his) Father".)
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