Posted on 06/13/2012 4:11:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
How do they go to church on Sunday? What are they listening too when the Priest is speaking?
Sadly, solid preaching on the Church's teaching is lacking in most homilies.
("I'm OK, you're OK, is NOT part of the teaching)
Well with the Pope appointing new bishops who are “traditional”. Plus the new seminarians are traditional-minded.
RE: What are they listening too when the Priest is speaking?
I would surmise that many Catholics are like Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden...
They define their faith based on what they personally believe is right, not by what the church teaches.
2008: Obama, 53%
That figure alone is a disgrace.
“How do they go to church on Sunday? What are they listening too when the Priest is speaking?”
It’s less teaching and more chanting...
The Catholic Church gets condemned if it doesn’t strong-arm parishioners to vote a certain way and she gets condemned if she does strong-arm parishioners to vote a certain way.
The good news is that most of the deadwood priests who got caught in the faux spirit of Vatican II crap have been replaced with solid sturdy growing oaks who are the priests that have been ordained since the 1990s. The solid preaching and exhortations to live the gospel and doctrine that stems from that gospel do wonders in the voting booth without any stron-arm tactics necessary.
Those still in a hellish faux spirit of VatII parish: hold on, the sacraments are worth the sacrifice and soon a good priest will replace the one leading your parish who was poorly formed.
Perhaps they like Religious Freedom and will vote for it?
Pray for America
Especially when Obama's stance on post-birth abortion (denying med care to abortion-surviving infants in IL) was one of the few "knowns" about his ideology.
If, come November, they don't.. that'll speak volumes about their intensity of faith.
The same way Southern Baptists go to church on Sunday...and mainline protestants. The 53% are probably Catholic in Name Only. I'm Southern Baptist and a minister. I work in Church Revitalization and in some of our SBC churches it is not uncommon to see 10-15% attendance of the membership roll. Even "healthy" churches are lucky to have 30% attendance of the roll. Now granted, some of the problem is churches are as bad at purging the membership rolls as the states are purging the voter rolls...but the biggest problem is people backslide...stopped coming.
Where are they (by and large)? The same place as the RCC members: They are apostates from their faith. They have the same divorce rate as the lost...they commit the same frequency of sexual sins as the lost...they talk like the lost in the workplace...but their name is on a church roll some where and they may even occasionally attend...just like Catholics. They are not "changed"...they are not a "New Creation."
And so they vote like the lost.
“Catholics tend to identify themselves as Catholics long after they have ceased going to church”
I would hazard a guess that when it comes to polling voters, these people may be the majority of “Catholics” showing up in any given poll that does not break down the numbers based on who actually goes to church.
One of the reasons for the large Catholic vote is the church supported in a quiet way the Obama agenda. The parts about helping illegals, universal health care, take care of your brother and peace across the land. Now that they have made their bargain with the devil the church sees the error of their ways (a little too late) Today the church is against Obama and they subtly question his motives and future plans. At least that is what I see in my parish here in NY
57% for Carter?
Less than 50% for George W.? (Presumably more than 50% for Gore and Kerry?)
Majority went for Obama?
Sheesh.
“But they pose as Catholics, the media presents them as Catholics, and our godless president will use them as cover”
That’s because the media HATES the Catholic Church and wants destroy it any way they can. Promoting liberal Catholics who go to Mass once a year is an attempt to tar and feather all Catholics are non-believing bigots. Faithful Catholics that try to live their life according to the Magisterium of the Catholic Church did not vote for pro-abortion, Catholic-hating Obama.
Interesting bit of Buck County, PA history: the church Ive been attending lately was founded by William Tennent. He also started what was derogatorily called the log college - a one-room schoolhouse for the education of ministers locally. It only graduated about a dozen students, some of them sons of William Tennent himself. But those graduates went on to be instrumental in the founding of dozens of well-known colleges. One of Tennents sons was a trustee of a thriving little college in New Jersey, and one evening he arrived late to a meeting. When he arrived, all the other trustees were discussing an offer by the government to take over and fund the college. Mr. Tennent reacted by saying that before he would see the government control the college he would set fire to the four corners of the building, and disappear into the night. That was the end of that discussion!
But the Catholic Church would not react in the same way, IMHO. Mores the pity. Now the POTUS is taking off the mask, and the Catholic Church is beginning to see the applicability of the English proverb, "He that sups with the Devil shall have need of a long spoon, to relations with the government. Just a little behind William Tennents son, tho . . .
White Catholics will vote for Romney. Minority Catholics are solid Democrats.
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