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Suspect Shot After Allegedly Trying To Steal Tip Jar In Northwest OKC
news9.com ^ | 13 June, 2012 | LaShauna Sewell

Posted on 06/14/2012 4:34:17 AM PDT by marktwain

OKLAHOMA CITY -

Police say when a suspect pulled out his gun and started shooting, the manager of a northwest Oklahoma City pool hall pulled out his own weapon and fired back.

According to a police report, a man and his friend were playing pool at Chester's Pool Hall near N.W. 50th Street and N. May Avenue on June 10. The man saw two people walk up to a counter, steal a tip jar filled with cash, and walk toward the exit.

The witness told the manager what he'd seen, and the manager went outside to confront the men. The manager and one of the suspects physically struggled over the tip jar. When a second person came out to help the manager, the suspect told his friend to shoot them.

Witnesses said the other suspect, identified as 18-year-old Jesus Perez, pulled out a gun and opened fire. The manager then pulled out his own gun and started shooting.

Both Perez and the manager were hit by gunfire, but neither was seriously hurt. The other suspect threw down the tip jar when the manager pulled out a gun, but witnesses said he then went to grab the gun Perez had dropped.

Before the second suspect could reach the gun, police arrived. Officers arrested Perez and a 16-year-old suspect. They were booked into jail on a complaint of robbery with a firearm.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: banglist; defense; ok; robber
I wonder what the penalty will be?
1 posted on 06/14/2012 4:34:28 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I would think assault with deadly weapon should also be charged. I suspect the current charge is just to hold him until the DA can determine what to do,


2 posted on 06/14/2012 4:49:47 AM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: marktwain
Before the second suspect could reach the gun, police arrived.

Now that's some fast respondin'.

3 posted on 06/14/2012 5:06:31 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: marktwain

Over a tip jar?? Some folks need to chill..


4 posted on 06/14/2012 5:11:22 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Dunkin Donuts was around the corner.


5 posted on 06/14/2012 5:38:39 AM PDT by moovova (Michelle Obama is a community snacktivist.)
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To: goseminoles
Over a tip jar?? Some folks need to chill.

Are you saying that the owner needed to chill because it was only a tip jar?
Why is it that some believe that we don't need to strongly prosecute petty crimes?
This example went from petty crime to very serious when the suspect drew a weapon.
The thieves believed that a tip jar was worth killing someone for (as evidenced by their displaying a weapon.
Stated another way, the little money in the jar was worth more to the thieves than the lives of those who would defend it.
People who hold the lives of others in such low esteem need to be removed from the general population...one way or another.
6 posted on 06/14/2012 5:43:18 AM PDT by TxAg1981
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To: TxAg1981

Damn you’re angry...


7 posted on 06/14/2012 5:51:23 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

So I guess if someone shoplifts something small or steals a tip jar we should just ignore it. It was the thieves that escalated the encounter over “just a tip jar”.


8 posted on 06/14/2012 6:19:04 AM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: marktwain

Heyzoos, here’s a tip and ya’ don’t even need a jar. Don’t be stealin’ and robbin’!.....BOOM!!!


9 posted on 06/14/2012 6:30:08 AM PDT by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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To: Okieshooter

A life over a tip jar?? Let’s get a grip..


10 posted on 06/14/2012 6:35:46 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles; Okieshooter
So what is your limit before defense is allowed.

Look at it this way; the tips are giving because someone provided a service (their time and effort) therefore the tip is what someone expended part of their life to get. Stealing the tip jar is part of someone life. Life is always worth defending.

11 posted on 06/14/2012 6:41:36 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: goseminoles

Its not the tip jar, gocrminoles, it is the principle.
And yes, the principle is worth a life.


12 posted on 06/14/2012 6:44:39 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: goseminoles

Again you didn’t read the article. No no ones life was in danger untill the bad guy pulled a gun. Fortunately no one lost there life, but had the store owner not been carrying it might of been different.

I for one will not allow others to just take my property just because it has low value. That just encourages more of the same and next time it will be of more value.

You can be a victim if that is you choice.


13 posted on 06/14/2012 6:46:32 AM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: goseminoles
A life over a tip jar?? Let’s get a grip..

Yeah, why that kid would risk his life for a tip jar is wierd. But he did.

Lucky for him he isn't dead.

14 posted on 06/14/2012 6:50:51 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: goseminoles

Well, actually the shooting wasn’t over a tip jar. It was self-defense against deadly assault.

The headline is wrong.


15 posted on 06/14/2012 6:53:12 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: goseminoles; All
A life over a tip jar?? Let’s get a grip..

Yes, the robbers were insane to risk lives over a tip jar. However, when you threaten people's lives in order to take their property, your life is rightly at risk.

16 posted on 06/14/2012 6:56:03 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Suspect Shot After Allegedly Trying To Steal Tip Jar In Northwest OKC

What an inflammatory headline. It should read "Suspect Shot During Armed Robbery."

17 posted on 06/14/2012 8:57:46 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Okieshooter

Giuliani showed how it works when he was mayor in NYC. He got zealous capture and prosecutions of minor misdemeanants, like turnstile jumpers in the subway. The major crime rate dropped precipitously. Petty crime is training for the serious stuff.


18 posted on 06/14/2012 9:57:31 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: marktwain

The manager shot Jesus. Dang.


19 posted on 06/14/2012 9:59:55 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic

Jesus shot the manager. Double dang.


20 posted on 06/14/2012 10:01:12 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: goseminoles

One more time, goseminoles, just to make sure you got it.

The ROBBERS were willing to take a life over the tip jar.

The manager only defended himself when he was threatened with lethal force.


21 posted on 06/14/2012 10:59:43 AM PDT by HEM
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To: goseminoles

You said it! I can’t believe these kids stole a meager tip jar and then thought it was worth an attempted murder charge. That manager was both brave and prepared. Good on him, he’s the type of person that I would work for.


22 posted on 06/14/2012 3:53:04 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: TexasRepublic

..but he didn’t shoot the deputy.


23 posted on 06/14/2012 3:56:06 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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