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To: muawiyah
Some, but not many non-LDS in LDS-sponsored unit. It would change the figure tenths of a percentage is all. The biggest difference would be in the intermountain west.

The average LDS unit is smaller than the average BSA unit overall because of the one-unit-per-ward rule.

Most non-LDS don't find LDS units an appealing alternative for a number of reasons. Among other things, it's a different program than traditional Scouting, there's not as much camping due to the restriction on Saturday night camping, there's the tie-in to the LDS Young Men's program, there's the statistically much more frequent turnover of adult leaders (confirmed by BYU studies) due to the "calling" system instead of the volunteer system, there's the selection of senior youth leader by the Bishopric, and the ages are tied to the Priesthood Quorum - so there's the pressure to earn your Eagle by 15 rather than to be in a Troop until 18.

Note I'm not saying there's anything wrong with LDS Scouting. It's a valuable part of Scouting and it serves the purposes of the LDS Church.

18 posted on 06/14/2012 7:42:54 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

Hi SM,
Your posts are getting longer, you must be healing up right. Glad to see you around.

I would argue that there are many things “wrong” with LDS Scouting and you listed some of them.

It’s why I see more and more LDS youth joining conventional units in my area. The LDS are failing their youth and don’t seem to care. Oh, they talk a good talk, go to WB, Philmont, etc., but implement next to nothing and/or released within 6 months of attending WB without completing their ticket.

My regard for LDS Scouting is very low, I’ve served for a number of years in LDS Scouting so I’m well aware of what goes on at the Ward and Stake level.

I’ve also served with some very good LDS Scout leaders, but they are so few and far between as to be statistically insignificant.

Flame suit on, talking “bad” (even if it is the truth) about anything LDS is sure to bring all the protectors out.


33 posted on 06/20/2012 6:36:50 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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