Skip to comments.Britain unveils electronic mass surveillance plan
Posted on 06/15/2012 9:10:44 AM PDT by JerseyanExileEdited on 06/15/2012 11:11:44 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
British authorities on Thursday unveiled an ambitious plan to log details about every Web visit, email, phone call or text message in the U.K. — and in a sharply-worded editorial the nation's top law enforcement official accused those worried about the surveillance program of being either criminals or conspiracy theorists.
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Big deal. We already have it.
(Except, perhaps, the opening of snail mail)
I posted an oblique reference to Viagra on a Hottie thread some weeks back and ever since then my email has been stuffed with enlargement spam.
Selling data to spammers, just like we do?
“...those worried about the surveillance program of being either criminals or conspiracy theorists.”
And those advocating it are paranoid control freaks, tyrants, totalitarians, perverse voyeurs and deviants, and advocates of fascism. It is not only that their ideas need to be utterly rebuked as loathsome to freedom and liberty, but that they, as individuals, need incarceration to protect the public from such twisted machinations and sociopathy.
“The object of power is power. “ —GEORGE ORWELL
monitoring the information in real time.
Home Office Secretary Theresa May said in an editorial published ahead of the bill’s unveiling that only evil-doers should be frightened.
“Our proposals are sensible and limited,” she wrote in The Sun, the country’s top-selling daily. “They will give the police and some other agencies access to data about online communications to tackle crime, exactly as they do now with mobile phone calls and texts. Unless you are a criminal, then you’ve nothing to worry about from this new law.”
It’s interesting to me how my feeling change over the years and as our governments become more oppressive.
“Only evil-doers should be frightened”, Really?! So what happens when they change or expand the definition of an evil-doer?
I love technology and how it makes our lives easier than what our parents and grand-parents had to deal with. But in retrospect my parents and Grand-parents were far more free than I am today. So many new Laws and regulations with the force of law are enacted EVERYDAY.
As Ayn Rand foresaw, we are all criminals today, and that’s how we will be controlled by the regime. Free men cannot be controlled in the same ways criminals can be.
Perhaps the luddites and neo-luddites are correct in their reasoning. Too much technology makes us serfs or slaves to those who would use that same technology to control all aspects of our lives.
Hmmm. Sounds like it could show a net profit if it is organized properly! Maybe they should sell the rights to Google?
If you want to glimpse the future, all you have to do is watch the movie “V for Vendetta”. Unless we are very careful this country will slide down that slippery slope and any semblance of our great nation will be nothing more than a memory. All references to it will be erased form the databanks.
Well, this will certainly make it easier for the mullahs to control the peeps when they (soon) take over.
To our dear British friends....
Perhaps now you understand why we took up muskets against your King in 1775...
Good idea! google already has all the infrastructure in place!
Trash like you are more of a threat than are criminals.
If, after 5 years, this still seems like a good idea, then maybe the government should be allowed to watch the public.
Look into who financed and gave google propreitary info as a startup....don't think for a minute it all came from the private sector. Many large co's are helped by the gov't for their own use down the road.
Exactly, and no scruples as demostrated by their cooperation with the Red Chinese.
[If you want to glimpse the future, all you have to do is watch the movie V for Vendetta.]
Thanks. I’ll check it out.
Google could be a supplier not a buyer.
Well, there you have it.
The end of Western Civilization as we know it.
They took Orwell’s cautionary tale, and used it as a bloody instruction manual.
The only way to prevent government from violating the privacy of its citizens is to prevent them from having the means to do so in the first place.
“But in retrospect my parents and Grand-parents were far more free than I am today.”
Very much so.
Do you still have those muskets and are you currently using them?
As a pro-American conservative and ex-military, I will never understand why you thought the Patriot Act was a good thing.
There is widespread, cross-political anger at this.
Many conservatives oppose this.
I expected this from the control freak last govt.
Not this one.
You already have.
The Patriot Act.
In order to sign the Patriot Act 226 years later.
Support the Patriot Act?.
If so, tell me why that was not as stupid and appalling as this idiocy?.
Yep, and we had to borrow it back from the Bush administration.
How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four." "Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane."
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever."
- George Orwell, 1984
Just the term “Home Office” is so Orwellian.
The most powerful agency of the British Government named as if it were a discount office supply store.
Sounds like my idea for Obama Care. Government employees at all levels should beta test it first.
If that's the case, I'll ratchet up my butt scratching, arm pit sniffing, nose picking, ear wax digging, zit popping and burping to every 10 minutes just to keep them entertained.
You guys were well on your way before Bush. How many CCTV cameras you got everywhere? I seem to recall I was reading about those back when Slick was in office.
True, although they were brought in to combat the IRA.