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To: doc1019

This guy is actually wrong. There have been many studies that have shown differences in the outcomes of same sex verses traditional family structures. Now in the past decade there has been a proponderence of activist studies where the subjects self select and self evaluate themselves so effectively lesbian moms and homosexual dads are answering a questionaire which they know the purpose for. So what do you think they will say when asked if their children are well adjusted? Really that isn’t science and that is what passes for science in the leftist dominated social sciences. This new study is an attempt to actually establish empircle measures which is more in line with earlier studies. What the gay activists do not want is empiraclism. They lose on that count every time. They want emotional laden catch phrases while simultaneously bullying anyone who dares question the immutability of homosexuality.

Science, myths and same-sex parenting
http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/science_myths_and_same_sex_parenting

If you look at the responses to this study they immediately lable it a “conservative” study to detract from it even though it is the most comprehensive study of its kind. If that is the standard not one of the studies done showing children of homosexuals were just as good as traditional parents was ‘scientific’ and many of these studies were actually conducted by open homosexuals with funding from left wing sources and or in left wing sociology departments so none of them would be valid by such a standard.

There is one thing that can not be denied and that being homosexual in general carries with it several common indicators increased drug/alcohol use, increased sexual partners (especially men), increased depression/mental illness, incrased domestic violence and increase incidence of sexual disease. There really isn’t a comparison.

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02

I know many just want to ignore the facts. Its easier that way but it doesn’t change the facts. We are doing a dangerous thing letting homosexuality be normed the way it is. All one has to do is spend a day reviewing the literature and ‘gay events’ to see that there is no way in hell that this lifestyle is a positive thing. It is are the least an incorrect personal decision and at its worst the cumulation of years of sexual and or parental abuse.


4 posted on 06/15/2012 7:26:35 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: Maelstorm

From the decision of the APA, the issue has been driven by a political agenda, which aims at institutionalizing the sexual revolution. fFree use of contraceptive drugs, abortion, easy divorce, casual sex, and ignoring the social consequences. Rampant STDs.a plague of pornography, children harmed by divorce, single motherhood and young men and women growing up with no connection with their fathers. Increasing poverty as traditional families becoming a minority.


9 posted on 06/16/2012 5:04:53 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Maelstorm
However, as a matter of intellectual honesty, it needs to be recognized that virtually all the studies of same-sex parenting that have been conducted thus far fall far short of any standard of scientific testing.

Thank you! To call what people in this field do "science" is a huge stretch. Pournelle lumps Sociology along with several other areas into what he calls the Voodoo Sciences, and that would seem appropriate to me. This author would seem to agree with that assessment give this line in the article:

Really that isn’t science and that is what passes for science in the leftist dominated social sciences.

It is worth noting that it was a related field, Psychology, that removed homosexuality from their Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, their bible for diagnoses throughout the field, not on the basis of any new breakthroughs in research, as would be expected of any Science worthy of the name, but because homosexuals and NE Liberals in the Psychology community got together and decreed it no longer a "disorder". I've always found this an interesting finding from a Darwinistic perspective.

Here is an article that discusses the removal from the DSM from a homosexual-friendly standpoint: Not Sick: The 1973 Removal of Homosexuality from the DSM. You can see reading this how it is all about controlling the narrative and a question of competing value judgements, and nothing having to do with Science, at least to anyone trained in the tenets of real Science.

14 posted on 06/17/2012 3:29:16 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Maelstorm
Oh, and further, on this note:

All one has to do is spend a day reviewing the literature and ‘gay events’ to see that there is no way in hell that this lifestyle is a positive thing.

the best way to quickly show this is so, is to direct people to Zombie's site for her reports on Folsom Street Fair, which is largely a big homosexual street exhibitionism event in San Francisco. Anyone who thinks those goings on are "normal" is all kinds of messed up. Here is the Zombietime blog home page. Go there and search for Folsom. I love the disclaimer before you are allowed to go to the actual report.

15 posted on 06/17/2012 3:40:28 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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