"Who killed John F. Kennedy?" Is the question they choose.
St. Peter answered, "Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone."
One conspiratorialist turns to the other and says, "it's deeper than we thought."
Posted on 06/16/2012 12:00:13 AM PDT by zeestephen
Romney "agrees" with Rubio. Wants "long term" solution. Full statement in Comments.
(Excerpt) Read more at madisonproject.com ...
“I believe the status of young people who come here through no fault of their own is an important matter to be considered, and should be solved on a long term basis so they know what their future would be in this country,” Romney said after a campaign stop in Milford, New Hampshire.
“I think the action that the president took today makes it more difficult to reach that long term solution because an executive order is, of course, a short term matter and can be reversed by subsequent presidents,” Romney said.
“I would like to seek legislation that deals with this issue and I happen agree with Marco Rubio as he looked at, considered this issue, he said that this is an important matter that we have to find a long term solution,” Romney said.
I don’t think the GOP needs to say much here. Those who support this are now more in favor of Obama than ever. Those opposed are now more opposed than ever. Romney saying one thing or another won’t matter. I think there will be plenty of middle America who won’t like this regardless of what Romney says or doesn’t say.
LLS
There are two people that need to go:
1) Obama 2) Boehner
“I think the action that the president took today makes it more difficult to reach that long term solution because an executive order is, of course, a short term matter and can be reversed by subsequent presidents,” Romney said. “
Romney doesn’t need to walk into this mine field right now. He is setting himself up should he become president for little room to maneuver.
Why the hell can’t a Republican enunciate a core belief here instead of this “me too” idiocy.
This statement just says he agrees with Obama only it won’t last long enough.
“Here is the truth. If mitt were a leader... a true leader... he would have made a statement that came from his center... his soul if you will. A Conservative knows what is right and constitutional... he knows how this action subverts our Constitution and violates our very form of governance. Sarah Palin is a leader... a true conservative Statesman... look at her response... that is the response that mitt should have given. It is not offensive nor is it divisive... it is right and proper and Constitutional. mitt’s response was tepid, calculated, progressive and “political”. The truth is the truth.
LLS “
I agree. Romney should have called this move by Obama for what it is. Executive branch overreach which is what Obama has been doing all along. He could have nullified this whole thing if he argued from that point instead of walking into a door.
Instead of having a unified message on this, Republicans are all over the map. This should be called what it is. Obama ruling by dictatorial fiat.
It’s also an indicator of how Romney will govern should he win. I’m getting flashbacks of Dubya’s treatment of this issue. “See you at the signing”.
I agree.. move on.. after the next unemployment number comes out this story goes bye bye
I don't think it was just a coincidence that Obama came out with another "Republican War On ___" a day after the bad jobs numbers. There was the "Republican War On Women" to get the economy off the news then the "War Against Gays" and now the "Republican War On 'Immigrants'".
All day today and all weekend the news SHOULD have been talking about the rise in unemployment which was announced on thursday. Today there's NOTHING about the economy on the news.
after the next unemployment number comes out this story goes because...
Obama May Use Pot Issue to Lure Young Voters
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/obama-legalize-pot-election/2012/06/14/id/442278
LLS
At the time of his choosing, he will announce his immigration plan - not in response to the President.
Judging by Mitt's previous words, he will only give some kind of residency to the few (and known) thousand of illegals who signed up for military service, but not to anyone else.
GD politicians. So many words with no meaning.
Everybody knows that the children of Illegals didn’t have any say what so ever in coming to America. We also know that doing a blanket amnesty on any group of people via Executive Order is wrong. Just because, any President can withdraw that order.
In saying this, the Executive Branch is overstepping its bounds by intruding onto the Legislative Branch. In doing so, the Executive Branch will be sued and get the Judicial Branch involved. So what the President did was get all three Branches of the U.S. Government involved in the turmoil of immigration.
So instead of bringing the people of America together, the President again, has divided the country. The idea of keeping angry and divided, instead of all of us working together to fix the problems is working again.
The President did make a brilliant political move. Guarantee the Hispanic vote, make the Republicans look like fools and bypass Congress. But, also it will lose him votes with some independents that he ignores the rule of law. Time will tell if the President overall vote count will increase or decrease with this Executive Order.
Some people say to Impeach the President, get him out of office. But, in reality that will never happen. You just need a majority of house members to start the impeachment proceedings. Articles of Impeachment are handed over to the Senate. The Senate hears the evidence and votes. You need 2/3 of the Senators to agree to convict. As long as there are more than 34 Democratic Senators, the conviction will never happen. So the Republicans are stuck with the President doing things that he can never be successfully Impeached and convicted.
The only way to remove the President from office in reality is two ways.
(1) Vote him out of office
(2) Get 2/3 of the Senate Republican
Both of these two things can happen in the November 2012 vote. Otherwise, you are just wasting political capital, time and money.
Give them a "no fault of their own" deportation along with their parents.
The Congress shall have power ... To establish a uniform rule of naturalization.
His position in the primaries was nothing more than an insincere, dishonest narrative to remove one big impediment to the nomination just like John McCain did temporarily in 2008. Not at all surprised. He was a complete lying sack of crap on illegal immigration in the debates, and has now reverted to true RINO default position for incremental Rove/Bush43-style amnesty. We may have to resort to passive grassroots resistance like tie up ICE incessantly with bogus phone calls, submit phony amnest applications en masse and overwhelm their system so they cannot execute the illegal executive order if the RINO Stupid Party and it’s gutless, equivocating nominee won’t unflinchingly stand up to the Emperor hardcore on this issue on our and America’s behalf.
In public Mitt Romney has been on all sides of every issue in private he’s a democrat trying to convince everybody that he’s really a republican.
Yep, that's what he's been doing and that's what he should be called out for. The President's job isn't to decide which laws are going to be enforced. Why should the people accept that ridiculous behavior from their President?
I'm hoping that Romney will attack him hard on all of his unprecedented, arrogant ruling by fiat, i.e., “executive branch overreach”.
A Kenyan criminal arrogates the power of law to himself, makes himself king and declares that foreign criminals have immunity while his "Justice" department is out arresting, suing and terrorizing the citizenry?
And all Little Mittens can do is stand aside and meekly issue some watered down statement?
"Who killed John F. Kennedy?" Is the question they choose.
St. Peter answered, "Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone."
One conspiratorialist turns to the other and says, "it's deeper than we thought."
“I think the action that the president took today makes it more difficult to reach that long term solution because an executive order is, of course, a short term matter and can be reversed by subsequent presidents,” Romney said.
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This is a long term solution Mr. Romney.
YOU aren’t about to reverse this Executive Order and you friggin know it.
There is a third way.
The same way we got rid of British rule.
Exactly - truth will out, even at 2:30 in the morning. Don’t know how you can do that at that time but you have clearly drawn the correct leadership paradigm that we all knew was missing in the Mittster.
So the whole affair is (as usual) all about buying votes AND BY-PASSING CONGRESS.
Here's the problem....Reagan did it, too.
Everyone of Obama's executive orders need to be obliterated.
He is backing up Rubio, wonder if that is an indication of his VP choice. Agree, he should of come out swinging, backing up the constitutions.
I suggest a simple solution: Romney should endorse the non-deportation of this carefully defined class upon its being ratified by Congress and subject to these youths serving at least two full years active duty service in the military with no provisions for community service opt outs. Is this not essentially the law anyway?
Constitution, correction
No it doesn't. A law is made by our Congress.
Actually, the case you are referring to is Plyler v. Doe, a case where the Supreme Court threw out a Texas law prohibiting illegals from attending public schools.
There is no law that compels us to hand over cash to foreign criminals. Only a judicial decision - in other words, and act of Tyranny by men who have no authority to make laws.
The brave new conservative Mitt takes a stand.
To quote Bob Dylan...
Democracy don’t rule this world
You better get that through your head
This world is ruled by violence
But I guess that’s better left unsaid
The problem is that the whole country is filled to the brim with illegals and yes some through no fault of there owm
Mitt could have said that he aims to rid America of all illegals, and we would have all cheered but we both know that even if he did, there would be riots in the streets.
There is a cancer in this country called social equal-ism and as I type this, it is stronger than any written law.
Mitt was right in what he said. Along term solution is better than a half baked one OR no solution at all.
” This should be called what it is. Obama ruling by dictatorial fiat.”
Yes. This changes the argument. It neither agree or disagree, it just focus’s on thw abuse of power
Two typos in this short post. General, either you cut and pasted this from somewhere, errors intact, or it’s time for bed. Regards.
If the citizens of this Republic still took the Constitution seriously, Obama would be impeached for his decision to unilaterally grant amnesty to certain illegal aliens. Article 1, Sec. 8 of the Constitution, which enumerates the power of Congress, states that "Congress shall have the Power To... establish an [sic] uniform Rule of Naturalization." Congress has passed numerous laws pertaining to immigration and naturalization, including laws requiring the deportation of illegals.
LLS
a short term matter and can be reversed by subsequent presidents,” Romney said.
I think he said it without really saying it. No, I do not think Romney should come out strong on this. 0bama is using it to instigate people. I happen to think Romney handled this perfectly for the day. We don’t want to hand 0bama a reason to declare his Martial Law edict.
0bama just dropped a hot brick. If you think it was for votes...you are wrong. 0bama is looking to instigate a crisis. The end here is not votes in November.
Never, ever forget that first and foremost 0bama is a community agitator.
LLS
This will not help Obama.
First, many hispanics will see it for what it is —— a political move.
Second, other hispanics, who are out of work, will be just a furious as any other citizen who is out of work.
Essentially, President Obama is saying he will not enforce immigration laws.
The question that needs to be asked is whether companies that hire these non-citizens be punished?
Romney’s statement:
“Muhnuhmunuh di-diii dididi. Muhnuhmuhnuh di-didi-di.”
What a real leader would say:
“I will deport as many illegal aliens as possible, and I will put an absolute and final end to any discussion of amnesty by passing a law which forever prohibits it. If you are here illegally, you have less than five months to go home on your own before we throw you out in chains. If you employ illegal aliens, we will pursue and punish you with the same righteous fury.
Oh, and construction of a fence, a real fence with electrified barbed wire and sharks with lasers, will begin within one week of my inauguration.”
Your attitude is the problem. WE DO NOT REWARD LAWLESSNESS OR INVADING ENEMIES with perks of citizenship. I'd rather fight in the streets than allow that... you may be born to be an American... but you do not think like an American... not one that cares about our society and sovereignty. This issue is huge and the vast majority of Americans want our borders sealed and these illegals sent home... that is what we want and nothing less. It will happen... Ike did it and we will do it again... one day.
LLS
Then why is nearly every one on the RINO’s band wagon. Evil is Evil, even if it is a lesser of the 2. A RINO is a demoRAT with the gop label. Don’t drink the koolaide of either party.
It gets us Snowe, Graham, Collins, the former Specter and many, many others that vote like demoRATS most of the time.
It is how we keep losing our Constitutional rights and we US Citizens are now at the bottom of the totem pole and Illegals are at the top. Granny may qualify for $10-30 in food stamps, illegals get for their entire family, plus free housing and free medical. While granny’s has been GUTTED. Being of that age, we are being turned away by doctors now..or at best we get side effect riddled pills, instead of a needed operation. And if you are retired Military over 65 you are double punished.
A RINO is a demoRAT in the gop label. I don't vote for RINOS.
RINOS - Republicans Implementing Nuances Of Socialism
Fundamentally transforming America.
actually the SC ruling on obummercare should come first- that’s going to be lose-lose for obozo....
Few have figured out yet that the 800,000 young illegals referenced, supposedly now eligible for almost anything, are just the tip of the iceberg.
What about the zillions in that age group all largely unemployed throughout Mexico, Central and South America who will now be on a mission to get here since their status is assured by the Dear Leader.
IT's a huge sham and all designed to create a pathway down the road,incrementally again an old commie tactic,for illegals voting,by hook or crook, which is what this is all about.
Zero's handlers know his constituents fall short of a win after the ruse is over. He needs a permanent solution of poor desperate people who will always vote for a handout instead of a hand up.Enter poor thirds worlders, problem solved.
BUT it did not happen.
Instead, Mr. RomneyCARE represents the FINEST DNC points.
TARP, RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE, DeathPanels,
More Illegals, No conservative spine,
Sharia, Special Deals, Vulture Corporatism.
Mr. RomneyCARE is EXACTLY like Obama.
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Just because you didn't get your way in the primary is no excuse to give over the country to the far left. Try and learn a little bit more about what is going on in political circles.
Where is the actual executive order? Can’t deal with this effectively if we don’t know what it actually says.
This was an opportunity for Romney to show he is not one of them. He didn't (Obamalight?)
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