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Romney's Statement On Obama's Amnesty
Madison Project ^ | 15 June 2012 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 06/16/2012 12:00:13 AM PDT by zeestephen

Romney "agrees" with Rubio. Wants "long term" solution. Full statement in Comments.

(Excerpt) Read more at madisonproject.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; anticonstitution; bilderberg; globalists; nwo; obama; progressives; romney; romney4illegals; romney4mexico; romney4obama; romneytheweak; rubio; tepidromney; weakromney; yellowromney
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Romney's Statement:

“I believe the status of young people who come here through no fault of their own is an important matter to be considered, and should be solved on a long term basis so they know what their future would be in this country,” Romney said after a campaign stop in Milford, New Hampshire.

“I think the action that the president took today makes it more difficult to reach that long term solution because an executive order is, of course, a short term matter and can be reversed by subsequent presidents,” Romney said.

“I would like to seek legislation that deals with this issue and I happen agree with Marco Rubio as he looked at, considered this issue, he said that this is an important matter that we have to find a long term solution,” Romney said.

1 posted on 06/16/2012 12:00:18 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

I don’t think the GOP needs to say much here. Those who support this are now more in favor of Obama than ever. Those opposed are now more opposed than ever. Romney saying one thing or another won’t matter. I think there will be plenty of middle America who won’t like this regardless of what Romney says or doesn’t say.


2 posted on 06/16/2012 12:22:12 AM PDT by paul544
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To: paul544
Here is the truth. If mitt were a leader... a true leader... he would have made a statement that came from his center... his soul if you will. A Conservative knows what is right and constitutional... he knows how this action subverts our Constitution and violates our very form of governance. Sarah Palin is a leader... a true conservative Statesman... look at her response... that is the response that mitt should have given. It is not offensive nor is it divisive... it is right and proper and Constitutional. mitt's response was tepid, calculated, progressive and “political”. The truth is the truth.

LLS

3 posted on 06/16/2012 12:34:31 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: zeestephen
This whole thing is a mess. From Romney to Rubio and the DO NOTHING House the Republicans control.

There are two people that need to go:

1) Obama 2) Boehner

4 posted on 06/16/2012 12:35:56 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Should Obama recuse himself from making any decisions on immigration?)
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To: zeestephen

“I think the action that the president took today makes it more difficult to reach that long term solution because an executive order is, of course, a short term matter and can be reversed by subsequent presidents,” Romney said. “

Romney doesn’t need to walk into this mine field right now. He is setting himself up should he become president for little room to maneuver.

Why the hell can’t a Republican enunciate a core belief here instead of this “me too” idiocy.

This statement just says he agrees with Obama only it won’t last long enough.


5 posted on 06/16/2012 12:42:06 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“Here is the truth. If mitt were a leader... a true leader... he would have made a statement that came from his center... his soul if you will. A Conservative knows what is right and constitutional... he knows how this action subverts our Constitution and violates our very form of governance. Sarah Palin is a leader... a true conservative Statesman... look at her response... that is the response that mitt should have given. It is not offensive nor is it divisive... it is right and proper and Constitutional. mitt’s response was tepid, calculated, progressive and “political”. The truth is the truth.
LLS “

I agree. Romney should have called this move by Obama for what it is. Executive branch overreach which is what Obama has been doing all along. He could have nullified this whole thing if he argued from that point instead of walking into a door.

Instead of having a unified message on this, Republicans are all over the map. This should be called what it is. Obama ruling by dictatorial fiat.

It’s also an indicator of how Romney will govern should he win. I’m getting flashbacks of Dubya’s treatment of this issue. “See you at the signing”.


6 posted on 06/16/2012 12:50:46 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: zeestephen

I agree.. move on.. after the next unemployment number comes out this story goes bye bye


7 posted on 06/16/2012 12:53:58 AM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Lib-Lickers 2
I agree.. move on.. after the next unemployment number comes out this story goes

I don't think it was just a coincidence that Obama came out with another "Republican War On ___" a day after the bad jobs numbers. There was the "Republican War On Women" to get the economy off the news then the "War Against Gays" and now the "Republican War On 'Immigrants'".

All day today and all weekend the news SHOULD have been talking about the rise in unemployment which was announced on thursday. Today there's NOTHING about the economy on the news.

after the next unemployment number comes out this story goes because...

Obama May Use Pot Issue to Lure Young Voters

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/obama-legalize-pot-election/2012/06/14/id/442278

8 posted on 06/16/2012 1:11:26 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Should Obama recuse himself from making any decisions on immigration?)
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To: headstamp 2
I doubt that mitt can win... not after today. I predicted this... a progressive in the vain of mitt romney cannot hide his inner liberal when forced into a snap decision. When mitt is lost... he always turns left. It is who and what he truly is.

LLS

9 posted on 06/16/2012 1:15:19 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: paul544
Among the cardinal virtues, the one that has the most weight with 'rulers' is prudence. And what you are advocating is the prudent course of action for Mitt at this time.

At the time of his choosing, he will announce his immigration plan - not in response to the President.

Judging by Mitt's previous words, he will only give some kind of residency to the few (and known) thousand of illegals who signed up for military service, but not to anyone else.

10 posted on 06/16/2012 1:17:07 AM PDT by 92nina
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To: zeestephen

GD politicians. So many words with no meaning.


11 posted on 06/16/2012 1:18:47 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: paul544

Everybody knows that the children of Illegals didn’t have any say what so ever in coming to America. We also know that doing a blanket amnesty on any group of people via Executive Order is wrong. Just because, any President can withdraw that order.

In saying this, the Executive Branch is overstepping its bounds by intruding onto the Legislative Branch. In doing so, the Executive Branch will be sued and get the Judicial Branch involved. So what the President did was get all three Branches of the U.S. Government involved in the turmoil of immigration.

So instead of bringing the people of America together, the President again, has divided the country. The idea of keeping angry and divided, instead of all of us working together to fix the problems is working again.

The President did make a brilliant political move. Guarantee the Hispanic vote, make the Republicans look like fools and bypass Congress. But, also it will lose him votes with some independents that he ignores the rule of law. Time will tell if the President overall vote count will increase or decrease with this Executive Order.

Some people say to Impeach the President, get him out of office. But, in reality that will never happen. You just need a majority of house members to start the impeachment proceedings. Articles of Impeachment are handed over to the Senate. The Senate hears the evidence and votes. You need 2/3 of the Senators to agree to convict. As long as there are more than 34 Democratic Senators, the conviction will never happen. So the Republicans are stuck with the President doing things that he can never be successfully Impeached and convicted.

The only way to remove the President from office in reality is two ways.

(1) Vote him out of office

(2) Get 2/3 of the Senate Republican

Both of these two things can happen in the November 2012 vote. Otherwise, you are just wasting political capital, time and money.


12 posted on 06/16/2012 1:19:52 AM PDT by ktw (72 ID, 536 HHC, Finally Retired after 25 years!)
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To: zeestephen
“I believe the status of young people who come here through no fault of their own is an important matter to be considered, and should be solved on a long term basis so they know what their future would be in this country,” Romney said after a campaign stop in Milford, New Hampshire.

Give them a "no fault of their own" deportation along with their parents.

13 posted on 06/16/2012 1:34:58 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: zeestephen
Oh sure Mitt. You can reverse an unconstituitional executive order in the same way it was made, unconstitutionally. Or perhaps you think it was Constitutional and Article 1, Section 8 does not apply for some reason that you have divined but have yet to clarify.

The Congress shall have power ... To establish a uniform rule of naturalization.

15 posted on 06/16/2012 2:06:17 AM PDT by No One Special
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To: tsowellfan

His position in the primaries was nothing more than an insincere, dishonest narrative to remove one big impediment to the nomination just like John McCain did temporarily in 2008. Not at all surprised. He was a complete lying sack of crap on illegal immigration in the debates, and has now reverted to true RINO default position for incremental Rove/Bush43-style amnesty. We may have to resort to passive grassroots resistance like tie up ICE incessantly with bogus phone calls, submit phony amnest applications en masse and overwhelm their system so they cannot execute the illegal executive order if the RINO Stupid Party and it’s gutless, equivocating nominee won’t unflinchingly stand up to the Emperor hardcore on this issue on our and America’s behalf.


16 posted on 06/16/2012 2:32:59 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Must meditate on what Barack Obama/DNC wants YOU to do on Election Day. And then, do NOT do THAT!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

In public Mitt Romney has been on all sides of every issue in private he’s a democrat trying to convince everybody that he’s really a republican.


17 posted on 06/16/2012 2:38:47 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Should Obama recuse himself from making any decisions on immigration?)
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To: headstamp 2
“Executive branch overreach which is what Obama has been doing all along”

Yep, that's what he's been doing and that's what he should be called out for. The President's job isn't to decide which laws are going to be enforced. Why should the people accept that ridiculous behavior from their President?
I'm hoping that Romney will attack him hard on all of his unprecedented, arrogant ruling by fiat, i.e., “executive branch overreach”.

18 posted on 06/16/2012 2:54:20 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: zeestephen
Whatta laugh.

A Kenyan criminal arrogates the power of law to himself, makes himself king and declares that foreign criminals have immunity while his "Justice" department is out arresting, suing and terrorizing the citizenry?

And all Little Mittens can do is stand aside and meekly issue some watered down statement?

19 posted on 06/16/2012 2:59:31 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: politicianslie
Two Kennedy assassination conspiratorialists I go to heaven whereupon they are at the pearly gates by St. Peter who advises them that they have and answer to one question before entering heaven.

"Who killed John F. Kennedy?" Is the question they choose.

St. Peter answered, "Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone."

One conspiratorialist turns to the other and says, "it's deeper than we thought."


20 posted on 06/16/2012 3:00:33 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: zeestephen

“I think the action that the president took today makes it more difficult to reach that long term solution because an executive order is, of course, a short term matter and can be reversed by subsequent presidents,” Romney said.
..........................................................

This is a long term solution Mr. Romney.

YOU aren’t about to reverse this Executive Order and you friggin know it.


21 posted on 06/16/2012 3:09:36 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: ktw

There is a third way.

The same way we got rid of British rule.


22 posted on 06/16/2012 3:13:37 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: LibLieSlayer

Exactly - truth will out, even at 2:30 in the morning. Don’t know how you can do that at that time but you have clearly drawn the correct leadership paradigm that we all knew was missing in the Mittster.


23 posted on 06/16/2012 3:24:59 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: paul544
It's not like these folks were being deported anyways. And Federal Law says WE have to educate them through 12th grade.

So the whole affair is (as usual) all about buying votes AND BY-PASSING CONGRESS.

Here's the problem....Reagan did it, too.

Everyone of Obama's executive orders need to be obliterated.

24 posted on 06/16/2012 3:25:56 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: LibLieSlayer

He is backing up Rubio, wonder if that is an indication of his VP choice. Agree, he should of come out swinging, backing up the constitutions.


25 posted on 06/16/2012 3:26:42 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: zeestephen
Romney is in danger of stepping on one of the mines planted by Obama on this issue. He is either going to antagonize people like me for, as Sarah Palin says, "pandering" to the Hispanic vote or he is in danger of seeing a replay of Obama's score he reached in 2008 among Hispanic voters.

I suggest a simple solution: Romney should endorse the non-deportation of this carefully defined class upon its being ratified by Congress and subject to these youths serving at least two full years active duty service in the military with no provisions for community service opt outs. Is this not essentially the law anyway?


26 posted on 06/16/2012 3:28:28 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: opentalk

Constitution, correction


27 posted on 06/16/2012 3:30:24 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Sacajaweau
And Federal Law says WE have to educate them through 12th grade

No it doesn't. A law is made by our Congress.

Actually, the case you are referring to is Plyler v. Doe, a case where the Supreme Court threw out a Texas law prohibiting illegals from attending public schools.

There is no law that compels us to hand over cash to foreign criminals. Only a judicial decision - in other words, and act of Tyranny by men who have no authority to make laws.

28 posted on 06/16/2012 3:33:46 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: zeestephen

The brave new conservative Mitt takes a stand.


29 posted on 06/16/2012 3:34:50 AM PDT by Third Person ( Actions reflect priorities.)
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To: Venturer

To quote Bob Dylan...

Democracy don’t rule this world
You better get that through your head
This world is ruled by violence
But I guess that’s better left unsaid


30 posted on 06/16/2012 3:41:44 AM PDT by Third Person ( Actions reflect priorities.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

The problem is that the whole country is filled to the brim with illegals and yes some through no fault of there owm

Mitt could have said that he aims to rid America of all illegals, and we would have all cheered but we both know that even if he did, there would be riots in the streets.

There is a cancer in this country called social equal-ism and as I type this, it is stronger than any written law.

Mitt was right in what he said. Along term solution is better than a half baked one OR no solution at all.


31 posted on 06/16/2012 3:44:09 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Things aren't as good as they should be and its Obama's fault, the resident said)
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To: headstamp 2

” This should be called what it is. Obama ruling by dictatorial fiat.”

Yes. This changes the argument. It neither agree or disagree, it just focus’s on thw abuse of power


32 posted on 06/16/2012 3:47:07 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Things aren't as good as they should be and its Obama's fault, the resident said)
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To: nathanbedford

Two typos in this short post. General, either you cut and pasted this from somewhere, errors intact, or it’s time for bed. Regards.


33 posted on 06/16/2012 4:06:34 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: zeestephen
If We Took the Constitution Seriously, Obama Would Be Impeached

If the citizens of this Republic still took the Constitution seriously, Obama would be impeached for his decision to unilaterally grant amnesty to certain illegal aliens. Article 1, Sec. 8 of the Constitution, which enumerates the power of Congress, states that "Congress shall have the Power To... establish an [sic] uniform Rule of Naturalization." Congress has passed numerous laws pertaining to immigration and naturalization, including laws requiring the deportation of illegals.

34 posted on 06/16/2012 4:12:00 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: T-Bird45
obamao stole my sleep last night. This tyranny has really bothered me... I expected it after jeb bush and his putrid attack on us and his glorifying Amnesty and reid seizing upon that and attacking us... then obamao’s treason. I knew something was coming. These one world order guys stick together... party labels really do not matter to them in private.

LLS

35 posted on 06/16/2012 4:13:15 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: LibLieSlayer

a short term matter and can be reversed by subsequent presidents,” Romney said.

I think he said it without really saying it. No, I do not think Romney should come out strong on this. 0bama is using it to instigate people. I happen to think Romney handled this perfectly for the day. We don’t want to hand 0bama a reason to declare his Martial Law edict.

0bama just dropped a hot brick. If you think it was for votes...you are wrong. 0bama is looking to instigate a crisis. The end here is not votes in November.

Never, ever forget that first and foremost 0bama is a community agitator.


36 posted on 06/16/2012 4:13:21 AM PDT by EBH (Obama took away your American Dreams and replaced them with "Dreams from My (his) Father".)
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To: opentalk
Yes he should... but he will not... and he telegraphed rubio as his pick today... at least by quoting him... he sends a big signal. rubio will cost him votes... votes that he already has that are barely hanging by a thread.

LLS

37 posted on 06/16/2012 4:16:16 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: zeestephen

This will not help Obama.

First, many hispanics will see it for what it is —— a political move.

Second, other hispanics, who are out of work, will be just a furious as any other citizen who is out of work.

Essentially, President Obama is saying he will not enforce immigration laws.

The question that needs to be asked is whether companies that hire these non-citizens be punished?


38 posted on 06/16/2012 4:17:16 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: zeestephen

Romney’s statement:
“Muhnuhmunuh di-diii dididi. Muhnuhmuhnuh di-didi-di.”

What a real leader would say:
“I will deport as many illegal aliens as possible, and I will put an absolute and final end to any discussion of amnesty by passing a law which forever prohibits it. If you are here illegally, you have less than five months to go home on your own before we throw you out in chains. If you employ illegal aliens, we will pursue and punish you with the same righteous fury.

Oh, and construction of a fence, a real fence with electrified barbed wire and sharks with lasers, will begin within one week of my inauguration.”


39 posted on 06/16/2012 4:24:13 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: BornToBeAmerican
No Amnesty... not now... not ever. AMERICA... the AMERICA that I love... WILL NEVER BE HELD HOSTAGE BY THE THREAT OF VIOLENCE. That is why we have the National Guard and State militia! I am not joking here. They are here illegally... they are a crime problem. They do not deserve to be here... they do not belong here regardless. If they want to become Americans, then there is a proper and legal path for that... but most do not... and most just want the money or to reconquesta the land we won from mexico.

Your attitude is the problem. WE DO NOT REWARD LAWLESSNESS OR INVADING ENEMIES with perks of citizenship. I'd rather fight in the streets than allow that... you may be born to be an American... but you do not think like an American... not one that cares about our society and sovereignty. This issue is huge and the vast majority of Americans want our borders sealed and these illegals sent home... that is what we want and nothing less. It will happen... Ike did it and we will do it again... one day.

LLS

40 posted on 06/16/2012 4:28:47 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Then why is nearly every one on the RINO’s band wagon. Evil is Evil, even if it is a lesser of the 2. A RINO is a demoRAT with the gop label. Don’t drink the koolaide of either party.

It gets us Snowe, Graham, Collins, the former Specter and many, many others that vote like demoRATS most of the time.

It is how we keep losing our Constitutional rights and we US Citizens are now at the bottom of the totem pole and Illegals are at the top. Granny may qualify for $10-30 in food stamps, illegals get for their entire family, plus free housing and free medical. While granny’s has been GUTTED. Being of that age, we are being turned away by doctors now..or at best we get side effect riddled pills, instead of a needed operation. And if you are retired Military over 65 you are double punished.


41 posted on 06/16/2012 4:35:42 AM PDT by GailA (IF U don't/won't keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: LibLieSlayer

A RINO is a demoRAT in the gop label. I don't vote for RINOS.


42 posted on 06/16/2012 4:41:42 AM PDT by GailA (IF U don't/won't keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: zeestephen

RINOS - Republicans Implementing Nuances Of Socialism

Fundamentally transforming America.


43 posted on 06/16/2012 4:41:58 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

actually the SC ruling on obummercare should come first- that’s going to be lose-lose for obozo....


44 posted on 06/16/2012 4:47:41 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: zeestephen
Brilliant reply by Romney's side to yet another major attack on America.

Few have figured out yet that the 800,000 young illegals referenced, supposedly now eligible for almost anything, are just the tip of the iceberg.

What about the zillions in that age group all largely unemployed throughout Mexico, Central and South America who will now be on a mission to get here since their status is assured by the Dear Leader.

IT's a huge sham and all designed to create a pathway down the road,incrementally again an old commie tactic,for illegals voting,by hook or crook, which is what this is all about.

Zero's handlers know his constituents fall short of a win after the ruse is over. He needs a permanent solution of poor desperate people who will always vote for a handout instead of a hand up.Enter poor thirds worlders, problem solved.

45 posted on 06/16/2012 4:48:50 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911
THIS WAS OPPORTUNITY FOR Mr. ROMNEYCARE TO STAND OUT AND PROVE HIS CONSERVATISM.

BUT it did not happen.

Instead, Mr. RomneyCARE represents the FINEST DNC points.

TARP, RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE, DeathPanels,
More Illegals, No conservative spine,
Sharia, Special Deals, Vulture Corporatism.

Mr. RomneyCARE is EXACTLY like Obama.

.


46 posted on 06/16/2012 4:57:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: LibLieSlayer
If mitt were a leader... a true leader... he would have made a statement that came from his center... his soul if you will.


47 posted on 06/16/2012 5:06:10 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: Diogenesis
All this political gamesmanship is obviously waaaay over your head. Just so you know and don't get hopelessly lost, Mitt Romney is the Republican candidate and is in a race for the life of the country. He has to weigh everything he says so he does not stupidly kill his chances to take out the true communist--barack hussein kardashian, that you obviously love so much.

Just because you didn't get your way in the primary is no excuse to give over the country to the far left. Try and learn a little bit more about what is going on in political circles.

48 posted on 06/16/2012 5:18:20 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: zeestephen

Where is the actual executive order? Can’t deal with this effectively if we don’t know what it actually says.


49 posted on 06/16/2012 5:21:24 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Rubio has praised the UN, pushes amnesty, gave speeches to CFR, seems to be pro-Iran war, voted yes NDAA and is not a NBC. Romney sounds like he will keep advancing same agenda.

This was an opportunity for Romney to show he is not one of them. He didn't (Obamalight?)

50 posted on 06/16/2012 5:25:38 AM PDT by opentalk
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