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Why public's opinions on Zimmerman is shifting
Jewish World Review ^ | June 18, 2012 | Rene Stutzman

Posted on 06/18/2012 11:07:52 AM PDT by imardmd1

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To: treetopsandroofs

How so?


141 posted on 06/19/2012 9:06:57 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: imardmd1

I want to see a trace of the versions of the site, all showing that “living expenses” were included in the appeal, and any that would suggest that a student loan was intended to count as a living expense.


142 posted on 06/19/2012 9:12:39 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: treetopsandroofs

You’ve exemplified a core principle of leftism far more than any leftist could ever wish to see in me. Namely that if I don’t swallow 100% Kool-Aid I’m unworthy. Well I say rotten baloney on that one.


143 posted on 06/19/2012 9:16:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Oh my, you have to have alabaster saints, with never a heroic flaw. That sounds very lefty to me.


144 posted on 06/19/2012 9:19:10 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Hey if you’re looking for somebody who says Mr. Z committed any crime by keeping Master T. in view, it won’t be me. I say good shoot, which ought to silence the purists calling me a lefty if said purists only had a speck of brain left.


145 posted on 06/19/2012 9:22:37 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

LOL, give you enough room and you expose yourself even more.


146 posted on 06/19/2012 9:34:28 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Hugin
If things were that bad they could have added another section to the website asking for donations for people to help out personally. Instead they tried to pull a fast one.


Source

147 posted on 06/19/2012 9:35:56 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Buckeye McFrog

[[That puts them on the same moral footing as Trayvon’s mother who trademarked her dead son’s name for use on some future fresh def gear yo’.]]

But Trayvon’s mother is black, and so her despicable captialism doesn’t matter with hte msm- George Zimmerman is ‘white’ hispanic which means the msm will NEVER allow him to get away with anything. The FACT is that Zims wife ASKED the judge if he would liek her to call her brother in law to find out how much was i nthe paypal accoutn and the judgge said “NO That’s Not necessary” and even the judge didn’t know the legality of whether or not the paypal $$ could be included in the bond judgement- He’s on tape making that confession, and he’s also on tape telling the wife that she didn’t have to find out how much was i nthe paypal account- Her responsibility to disclose the amount ENDED when the judge made BOTH of the statements that he did- it was then the court’s and the prosecutions responsiblity to fiudn otu the legality of using the paypal account in concidering how much bail shoudl be set at-

GGeorge and wife’s discussions have (or leghally ‘shoudl have’) absolutely NO bearing on this case becasue the judge aqnd prosecution dropped the ball o nthis- and thwen turned aroudn and blamed the wife? This hwole case stinks to high heaven and george and his wife ARE beign railroaded out of ‘political correctness’ (which, as we all know, means that the innocent get shafted, whikle the thug criminal Trayvon, who initiated an ILLEGAL ASSAULT with INTENT TO MURDER upon George Zimmerman-

ThaT IS what this trial is about- Trayvon tried hisa damdest to murder George Zimmerman, and trayvon made a fatal mistake by pickign o nthe wrong guy, and he lost- and the black comunity can’t stand this FACT


148 posted on 06/19/2012 9:36:28 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Go ahead and continue to expose yourself with your stream of bullshit.


149 posted on 06/19/2012 9:38:17 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: cynwoody

Thank you. Nobody, not even Hugin or I, ever said that his site NEVER read this way. That’s not the question! Is this how it always read?

And yes I know that missing a student loan payment can get the government hounds turned loose on you, making it hard to live. I’m still not sure it ought to be called a living expense... OK, so that splits hairs. Anyone here willing to write him a check for THAT?


150 posted on 06/19/2012 9:44:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

[[And here Barack Obama was supposed to be the great proof that America could be color blind]]

Our ‘DEAR LEADER’ (capitalized because Narciosists are always less than pleased when titles don’t get ALL the recognition they ‘deserve’) has been nothign but a two-faced, bald-faced LIAR- He and the left have done NOTHING BUT try to divide this coutnry, Pkitting young agaisnt old, rich agaisnt poor, hispanics agaisnt hispanics, black against white, big business against small business, and our DEAR LEADER fueled racial hatred by statign what he did abotu trayvon, and he has done absolutely NOTHING to quell the ILLEGAL ACTIONS of tbhe new black panthers and theuir ilk

Dear Leader has LIED throyugh his teeth since taking office, and nearly every month he stuffs another new constitutionally ILLEGAL Executive fiat in our faces which further divides this coutnry and pits one race agaisnt another-

The saddest part of the whole hting is that this country has fallen for ghis blatant LIES over and over again


151 posted on 06/19/2012 9:45:02 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Hugin

[[Because they’ve been playing the tapes of the actual conversaions where he and his wife talk about how to do it on FOX this morning]]

But Yet, they haven’t been playing the video and audio tape that shows the judge refuised to allow zimmerman’;s wife to call the brother in law (who was in charge of the paypal accoutn at that point) to ask how much was in there- nor are they playing hte part where the judge wasn’t even sure wether he could include that account’s sum i nthe bond ruling?

What george and wide discussed has NO bearign on this case since the judge and prosecution neglected to do their duty by finding out hte legality of the issue BEFORE settign hte bond

http://www.cnn.com/video/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_freevideo+%28RSS%3A+Video%29#/video/bestoftv/2012/04/27/bts-zimmerman-paypal-money.cnn


152 posted on 06/19/2012 9:49:28 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

And Barack Obama has some horrible faults, too!

Barack Obama has set the cause of a colorblind America behind a humongous eight ball. I hope he’s proud of himself. And I hope former Obama voters are saying shame on him, and that if fooled twice shame on themselves.


153 posted on 06/19/2012 9:52:10 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: CottShop

Where’s counsel in this picture? I thought O’Mara volunteered, or semi-volunteered (offered cut rate?). Is there a conflict with this judge, refusing to give fair consideration to O’Mara’s motions? This is sad but as the system is structured it will have to wait for a trial before the appellates can weigh in. Sometimes one might get the idea that the appellate court is watching, all facepalms, at this train wreck.


154 posted on 06/19/2012 9:55:49 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’ve been somewhat of a purist on this topic, and I still assert that I have at least five specs of brain left. ;^)

Of course this hasn’t been verified by an independent party.


155 posted on 06/19/2012 10:02:13 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

My staunch support of Zimmerman was a reaction to watching the media, the angry mob, and by my perception the Justice Department was more than likely working it’s magic behind the scenes here.

If it is shown Zimmerman was truly at fault in this situation, and I don’t mean just not minding the police dispatcher, I’ll sign on to him doing time.

I believe a grand jury was called for here. I’m not convinced there is enough evidence to warrant what is going on now. We will see.


156 posted on 06/19/2012 10:07:51 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: Reeses
Many Jews seem to be sympathetic to George because Zimmerman implies Jewish roots.

Zimmerman is Catholic. Back in VA, he used to be an altar boy. As anybody following the story would know.

157 posted on 06/19/2012 10:09:13 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: DoughtyOne

Someone doesn’t need to be an alabaster saint in order to be worthy of backing their endeavors. I hope that is not the issue here, Doughty. I hope Zimmerman manages to successfully negotiate the challenges and gets not just exonerated but vindicated in the Trayvon matter.

But somehow it’s getting insinuated that there are some possible issues I *must* turn a blind eye to or else be ostracized. And if those are the terms, well I submit to the ostracism; I prefer that to being a blind ideologue for anybody, “right wing” or otherwise, short of Jesus Christ personally.


158 posted on 06/19/2012 10:11:42 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

[[Where’s counsel in this picture? I thought O’Mara volunteered, or semi-volunteered (offered cut rate?).]]

I hjave no idea- it boggles them idn that counsel is allowing hte press to try this case in public without offering to set the record straight- The prosecutor has NO problem spouting off at htem outh in public press meetings giving her opinion, and pattign herself on the back every oportunity she gets- but defense has been eerily silent through htis all- and I’m beginning to wonder if he’s brilliant enough to handle this case? He should, by all rights, be demolishing hte prosecutions FALSE claims adn outright LIES (which he kind of did when hte charges were4 brought agaisnt george and it was shown that law enforcement LIED and then tried to cover it up) but sicne then I’ve not heard a peep fro mthe defense as george gets ripped to shreds i nthe public mind thanks to unscroupulous media and a prosecution who is engaging in blatant prosecutorial misconduct- and last time I looked, it is a crime to conduct prosecutorial misconduct? Why is Corey even still on this case?

This case stibnks to high heaven- Granted, George is ‘acting stupidly’, however, his actions have NO bearign o nthe FACT that he HAD to defend himself with deadly force because a THUG was ontop of him trying to murder him- That is THE issue i nthis case, not whether George or his wife supoposedly lied to hte court or even tried to move money around- The judge had the responsibility to find otu whether the money in the paypal account could be conciderted personal income or not, and he and hte prosecution FAILED to find out, and now they are blamign THEIR mistake on wife? The judge esswentially absolved the wife of having to disclose the money i nthe paypal accouint when he told her it wasn’t necessary to call the brother in law- it was at that point that the judge took it upo0n himself to find out the legality of using that money as a determination for bond


159 posted on 06/19/2012 10:18:15 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Nobody, not even Hugin or I, ever said that his site NEVER read this way. That’s not the question! Is this how it always read?

So, how did his other site(s) read?

Was there a second site, feeding into a GZ Paypal account, with a different fund raising appeal?? We need links and screenshots.

The only other site I'm aware of is the one O'Mara put up, gzlegalcase.com. It's not relevant here, since it was set up after the events in question. However, on 1 May, it did post the following (emphasis added):

An independent administrator has been chosen to oversee the George Zimmerman Defense Fund. The third-party administrator is a former IRS agent, and currently works as a CPA with experience managing Chapter 7 Trustee Funds.

The legal defense fund, as initially envisioned by George Zimmerman, as stated on his now-closed website, was set up to provide for living expenses and to fund costs and legal fees associated with his defense. This will also be the purpose of the new legal defense fund.

The fund's administrator will have sole discretion regarding the dispersal of funds, and guidelines will be put in place to define reasonable living expenses for Mr. Zimmerman and his family and to fund necessary legal expenses. Neither Mr. Zimmerman nor The O’Mara Law Group will have direct access to the funds.

There will be a strict level of confidentiality regarding those who donate to the George Zimmerman Defense Fund as their active donating is regarded as a private event and does not open them to public scrutiny.

While we are recommending a level of transparency regarding the use of these funds, that transparency is most appropriately afforded to the donors, as they are the source of the funds utilized.


160 posted on 06/19/2012 10:25:47 AM PDT by cynwoody
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