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Dr. Peter Vincent Pry: America May Never Recover From EMP Attack
radicalislam.org ^ | Ryan Mauro

Posted on 06/18/2012 3:33:12 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2

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To: knarf

“We’ll jump across some friggin’ kind of wires and fire them puppies back up.”

If Iraq can do it, certainly we can do it: http://iraqslogger.powweb.com/index.php/post/3131/Photo_of_the_Day_Man_Battles_Web_of_Wires?PHPSESSID=c5aa4044714cf600c5a3785c5c8aefed


41 posted on 06/18/2012 7:20:13 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: Salgak
We simply lack the tools to MAKE the current tools from a lower tech base: it would effectively knock us back to 1920s tech, and we’d have to gear back up from there. . .

Good grief, man.
All that technology is documented ad infinitum

If computers and calculators no longer worked, would it take decades to manufacture mechanical calculators while we rebuild. I don't think so.

Most of the monumental works of American exceptionalism (the the Obum wants to take credit for) were built long before the age of computers and microelectronics.

My life has spanned both eras, and I refuse to join the luddites.

42 posted on 06/18/2012 7:27:15 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Dedbone

EMP has the potential to impact anything with sensitive circuits unless it is shielded by a faraday cage or its electronics are built to be resistant.


43 posted on 06/18/2012 7:27:15 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: publius911

Yes, the tech is documented. But you have to have the tools to make the tech, and in case of EMP frying microchips, you need working tech from before the chip era. So, you’re talking mid-1960s tech. Except, to make THAT tech, you need the tools that built it, which haven’t been made or used for a generation plus.

It’s the “chicken or the egg” problem, writ large. . .you need a sufficient base of the machines to build the machines, and enough skilled operators to run them.

Oh. . .and how much of the documentation is physical, and how much was scanned and burned to CD/DVD to save space. . . or merely disposed of, by corporate. . .


44 posted on 06/18/2012 7:36:51 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: Salgak

Meanwhile you’re fighting to find something to eat. Doesn’t leave a lot of time to figure out how to make a toy.


45 posted on 06/18/2012 7:40:26 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
An EMP attack will NOT affect missile submarines (or their missiles). Payback will happen virtually instantaneously. No need to wait 'til "...the lights start to come back on..."

I need to dust off that list I made of the top 50 targets. Most would need only one; a few might need five.

We have the means.
We can satisfy any and all koranimal death wishes in the world.
Simultaneously.

46 posted on 06/18/2012 7:41:37 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Salgak
I still don't buy it. Starting now, how long would it take to produce a lathe? A planer?
I have a paper copy of a 1771 encyclopedia. Why would it be that hard to find paper copies of anything?

I am totally confident that we are talking about months, not decades.

With no more worries of any kind about a no longer existing enemy, incredible human resources can be brought to bear.

47 posted on 06/18/2012 7:54:26 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

For just a few million grant money this alarmist will study something and a write a report or something.


48 posted on 06/18/2012 8:23:31 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: driftdiver

“Until half of those with the knowledge die from lack of medicine or bad food. “

We have had major electrical outages many times. Millions didn’t die, riots didn’t destroy cities wholesale, and, GOSH, the electricity came back on. EMP will not wipe out all things electrical or electronic and the limited damage it might do is easily repaired. Besides, the ONLY country that can lob a nuke into our atmosphere is Russia and they’re not exactly aiming to do that anytime soon.


49 posted on 06/18/2012 8:27:20 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: driftdiver

“EMP has the potential to impact anything with sensitive circuits unless it is shielded by a faraday cage or its electronics are built to be resistant.”

No, it doesn’t. That is the biggest line of bullsh*t the urban legend types pass around about EMP. If that were the case then maybe you can explain just how we got all those videos and other electronic measurements long before we even knew EMP accompanied nuclear devices. I thought EMP was supposed to wipe out all things electric and electronic.


50 posted on 06/18/2012 8:30:57 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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51 posted on 06/18/2012 8:35:41 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Iam1ru1-2

This is a case of when not if, in 1859 a solar storm caused an EMP that took out telegraph lines. Big solar storms happen.


52 posted on 06/18/2012 8:53:44 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Hieronymus

ping


53 posted on 06/19/2012 12:13:09 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: satan

Perhaps you can answer a question I have had about an EMP attack:

We have deep underground warehouse complexes, such as SubTerra and SubTropolis in the KC MO area and others in the WV region. It has seemed to me that utilities/factories could store replacement components, even transformers, down there that would protected. Those cave warehouse systems are huge. I have read that in just one of them manufacturers already store 10% of our processed non-fresh food supply. I have also read that DOD uses space in these complexes.

Do you know if anyone is storing components and vital infrastructural parts in such places?


54 posted on 06/19/2012 4:45:40 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Max in Utah

“No doubt. All we have to do is crank up our production facilities, which of course run on electricity. Oh wait...


Generating electricity after an EMP attack will be very easy. Most motor (just coils of wire and metal) will survive an attack and can be used as generators along with any real generators. What will be needed is something to spin them. Well unless an EMP stops the wind, water, fire... we will retain the ability to spin the motors.

Hey how about using any left over liberals and chain them to a treadmill?


55 posted on 06/19/2012 5:33:48 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
The Starfish Prime test, which caused damage to the Hawaii grid from a range of 897 miles(but did not take it down entirely, and did not put Hawaii into the Stone Age) consisted of a "1.44 megaton W49 thermonuclear warhead detonated at an altitude of 250 miles (400 km)"

To cover the whole country with that level of damage, you would need a multi-megaton warhead, detonated from orbit, or several smaller (but still 100KT+) warheads at lower altitude. To accomplish this, we are talking about a major nuclear strike by a major power (Russia or China). The W49 warhead weighed 1,640 pounds. Lofting that payload into orbit is within the capabilities of only a few.

56 posted on 06/19/2012 5:47:55 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: publius911; Salgak
We simply lack the tools to MAKE the current tools from a lower tech base:

We don't make much in the way of chips in the US right now. Most chips are made overseas (outside the reach of EPA bureaucrats). The equipment we use is mostly made elsewhere. We would have to buy a bunch of stuff and wait for shipment, but it would be there.

57 posted on 06/19/2012 5:54:37 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: CodeToad

ONE of the problems with EMP, involves the way IC chips are made: microscopically thin gold wires connect the actual silicon chip to the pinouts on the IC packaging. Certain types of EMP run sufficient current through those wires to melt them. The chip itself isn’t hurt, but since it’s not connected to the case anymore, and it’s molded and epoxied shut, you can’t break the chip back open without cracking the silicon slab and TRULY destroying the chip. . .


58 posted on 06/19/2012 8:18:59 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: Salgak

“Certain types of EMP run sufficient current through those wires to melt them”

Those wires are waaaay toooooo smaaaalllll to pickup that level of voltage to generate enough heat to melt the solder. The induction from EMP wouldn’t cause enough heat to matter. EMP also has an extremely short duration, hence long wire requirements.


59 posted on 06/19/2012 8:56:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Peter Pry is on right now on Coast To Coast AM radio show:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/upcoming


60 posted on 04/24/2014 10:22:53 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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