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To: Spaulding; Drew68; Mr Rogers

Your response is predictably juvenile and has established nothing to refute the point of what I said. Exactly what I was describing in my last paragraph - personal insults (”Obama troops”, questioning honesty and motives, etc). Declarations by the U.S. Supreme Court and other legal precedents and rulings are not “irrelevant citations” just because they don’t fit with the grossly incomplete arguments you have presented.

Your comment about Wong Kim Ark case does not appear to be accurate - the Court cites Waite’s comments as just one of numerous of other cases and commentaries on what makes a citizen a citizen - the very long narrative contains multiple citations of commentaries / rulings and common law understandings that natural-born means those born within the realm - and cites more U.S. cases than I cited above in the narrative which make that exact declaration that the phrase natural-born in the Constitution is that of the English common law. I also do not see that appearing in the closing remarks where the final ruling is made as you claimed - it is much, much earlier in the text. Actually it would appear that although they do make references that there is no indication he has renounced his loyalties to the country (which is an obvious reference to the extensive discussion in the natural-born / common law sections of the narrative), the court does not actually make a declaration that he is ‘natural-born’ (nor does it say they are making a distinction of him being ‘native born’ as you claimed)...it appears their only goal was to establish he had the right of citizenship one way or the other as the case was about him being declared a noncitizen.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html


78 posted on 06/20/2012 12:20:40 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

There has been many a Masters and Doctoral thesis written on this. British common law dealt with subjects, property of a state and their relationship with that states monarch or king/queen. The US constitution deals with the relationship between free men without any King who we where throwing under a bus at gun point at that time. The only commonality of British common law and US law is both are written in English. The founding fathers pointedly did not use British common law in writing the Constitution.


120 posted on 06/21/2012 10:30:04 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse (RNC) will learn to sing)
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